beast
15 years ago
Bush problem is he's in prefect position a lot of times only to lose it at the perfect time for the offense and then get a hand up right next to the ball and the ball goes past him.

In other words Bush's problem is that he's so close but fails to at the last part... which gets him so much more crap...


Blackmon on the other hand is completely the other way... he looks bad until the ball gets near him or his guy and he gets very close and makes a play on the ball....
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
So what he need is Blackbush or Bushmon.

I agree, though. He never actually makes the play for the ball. It's like he doesn't see it coming or just doesn't turn his head around. It's really a shame, as he's on these 3rd string receivers like glue. It's just amazing how he keeps with them step for step.
millertime
15 years ago
Great cover man, horrible ball skills. Stafford made some tough throws today. Any corner (see: Woodson on their 1st TD) will have trouble defending a perfect throw and great catch.

Hopefully, with some seasoning his play will improve. Remember he was probably our fifth or sixth best corner when the season started. Now that he's getting his reps, he only should get better..... I hope.....
TheEngineer
15 years ago
Bush was out of position on a fair few plays.
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

Bush was out of position on a fair few plays.

"TheEngineer" wrote:




Not at all; he cut underneath a few times but couldn't make a play on the ball.

Not everyone is Woodson, where they have exceptional hand eye co-ordination and even at the last second can get their hands up to play the ball.

I agree with millertime, his ball skills are average on his best day. He is serviceable for sure, lets not forget that (like?) 6 teams showed interest in him. He is very athletic, and I think he can hold his own in zone.

Which leads me to another point, was it just me or were the Packers playing a lot more man, with some press-man too today? Don't blame them, but thought that was interesting.
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djcubez
15 years ago

So what he need is Blackbush or Bushmon.

I agree, though. He never actually makes the play for the ball. It's like he doesn't see it coming or just doesn't turn his head around. It's really a shame, as he's on these 3rd string receivers like glue. It's just amazing how he keeps with them step for step.

"Rockmolder" wrote:


That's a lot of what I saw. He just didn't seem to get his head around fast enough to make a play on the ball. Otherwise he was in pretty good position most of the time.
longtimefan
15 years ago
Just remember that this was the LIONS awesome set of WR and TE when saying he did okay...

*sarcasm off*
LambeauEast
15 years ago
He did good today, we'll see how it goes.
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TheEngineer
15 years ago

Bush was out of position on a fair few plays.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Not at all; he cut underneath a few times but couldn't make a play on the ball.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



If you're underneath, and can't make a play on the ball whatsoever, including tipping it away, you are out of position. The most memorable one of these was on a 3rd down play, late in the game, Bush went underneath and jumped but couldn't swipe at the ball. Luckily the Lions receiver couldn't hold on for an almost sure first down.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

How come blame is always assigned to the DB and the quarterback is sitting back there in his cradle of comfort. Bring the Effen heat all the time, even with a 20 point lead.

I would much rather lose knocking the quarterback down while he barely gets the ball off than letting him sit back there all day rushing 3 guys who never get whiff.

Letting NFL quarterbacks have target practice is just stupid. The two Vikings games this year were just appalling.

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I agree big time.

I've said it before a million times - you compensate for mediocre DBs by knocking the QB on his ass. The Giants won the SB with mediocre DBs a few years ago by doing just that.

It's very simple - if the QB is on his ass, he's not going to complete passes over mediocre DBs.
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