Pack93z
14 years ago
For me it is overall priorities.. IMO.. we have a couple backers that could slide outside if needed.. while we have some potential at Corner in Lee and Underwood, and one very solid young guy at corner in Williams.. we lack overall long term depth.

I also think Brad Jones and Cyril Obiozor is going to be something special as well... go back an look at film of Jones at Colorado that is posted in his draft thread.. kid has talent. Obi I think if going to develop nicely with Greene taking him under his wing.. just watch that kid develop.
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14 years ago

So, from these comments, I get that most of you find safety and corner more of a need than OLB?

I really think that this defense will never be a Pittsburgh-like one with the OLBs we have. Matthews is great, but he's a jack off all trades type. Kampman and Thompson are just not getting there. We need someone who will get in the opponents backfield time after time. Someone who, I think, you can pick up in the second round, because he's a tweener for the 4-3.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Matthews is great, BUT? There's no BUT. The guy has started 6 games, and has won the NFL Rookie Of The Week twice. He's hardly a jack of all trades (which infers "master of none").
Rockmolder
14 years ago

So, from these comments, I get that most of you find safety and corner more of a need than OLB?

I really think that this defense will never be a Pittsburgh-like one with the OLBs we have. Matthews is great, but he's a jack off all trades type. Kampman and Thompson are just not getting there. We need someone who will get in the opponents backfield time after time. Someone who, I think, you can pick up in the second round, because he's a tweener for the 4-3.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



Matthews is great, BUT? There's no BUT. The guy has started 6 games, and has won the NFL Rookie Of The Week twice. He's hardly a jack of all trades (which infers "master of none").

"Rockmolder" wrote:



That's my problem with the 3-4 OLB. If you ask me, both OLB spots are different positions. Matthews has been great, but he's not a DE. At least, not if you ask me. I want that guy who can pretty much get pressure every time the QB holds on to the ball too long. Matthews can't do that.

Don't get me wrong, great motor and he'll keep on trying, but usually, if his speed rush fails, he won't get there fast.

I have trust in Obiozor and Jones, as well. I just don't know if they'll ever be elite rushers. There's a reason for Obiozor still being on the PS. And Jones couldn't beat out Kapman, who really wasn't doing too well. Next to that, our OLB blitzes wheren't hitting home too often in the Dallas game. It's where the ILB crosses and DB blitzes that got there. And Jenkins, of course.

I know, they're young, they could still develop into solid starters, but so could Trevor Frod, Pat Lee and Brandon Underwood. Especially Underwood, if he bulks up a little.

That's my main reasoning for wanting a DE. That, and that you'll have a pretty decent hit chance on them in the 2nd round, compared with the 1st round.

Although a top guard wouldn't make me too mad either, in the 2nd round.
warhawk
14 years ago

So, from these comments, I get that most of you find safety and corner more of a need than OLB?

I really think that this defense will never be a Pittsburgh-like one with the OLBs we have. Matthews is great, but he's a jack off all trades type. Kampman and Thompson are just not getting there. We need someone who will get in the opponents backfield time after time. Someone who, I think, you can pick up in the second round, because he's a tweener for the 4-3.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



Matthews is great, BUT? There's no BUT. The guy has started 6 games, and has won the NFL Rookie Of The Week twice. He's hardly a jack of all trades (which infers "master of none").

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Yeah, Mathews will be there a LONG time without a doubt. If we have a need it's on the left side where you want that high pressure guy and in a way will will know if Jones can be that or not before the year is out. I'm not looking for Woodley production at this point but just seeing something that shows he can be the player we need there and steady getting better like Mathews.

Mathews is just getting started. Geesh. The sky is the limit for that guy.
"The train is leaving the station."
dfosterf
14 years ago
My not looking into the issue at all but probably still do as good as Ted mid season picks next year's draft authorization:

1st Round:
Russel Okung
Trent Williams
Charles Brown
Bryan Bulaga

19th, not 20th, I believe

2nd Round:
Anthony Davis
Selvish Capers
Bruce Campbell

52nd

3rd Round:
Ciron Black
Jason Fox
Gabe Carimi

82nd

4th Round:
Jarriel King
Kyle Galloway

116th

5th Round:
Sam Young
Nate Solder
Joseph Barksdale
Anthony Costonzo

147th

6th Round:

Zane Beadles
Lee Ziemba

180th

7th Round:

Adam Vlatoski
Jason Pinkston

211th

No need to worry your pretty little heads over what positions these guys play.

They're all friggin' O-linemen. If that don't fix it..well, there's always next year...He can do it again. :thumbleft:

Just take the fattest one from each group if more than one available, and of course if anyone slides round to round, take the fat guy that did.

You can go BPA other than QB, WR, TE if none on my list available that round. ONLY if not available, though.
Rockmolder
14 years ago
You got Carimi in the 3rd round? If he's there in the 3rd, we'll have to pick him. That'd make one hell of a future duo at the tackle spot, if we'd be able to get Charles (not Donald) Brown, as well.

Brown - Lang - Spitz - Sitton - Carimi





In all seriousness, though, the kid is a freak of nature. 6'7 - 6'8, 310 - 325, 4:88 - 5:20 40 and is the cornerstone of a pretty damn good O-line.

I'm afraid that the combine might shoot him up on the mock drafts. And in the actual draft.

If we actually have a coach who can develop O-linemen, the sky is the limit for this kid.
Pack93z
14 years ago
My opinion is Josh Oglesby, whom just went down with an injury is going to be an even better NFL tackle.. albeit I think he will be limited to the right side only.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
14 years ago
My 2010 version of Duke Robinson.

Mike Iupati 

..and just like last year with Duke, I am GOOD from the 2nd round back taking him.

He will probably be around as late as the 4th or 5th... AGAIN like Duke, only because of GM stubborness/stupidity, or hopefully he has a character flaw or something :thumbleft:
dfosterf
14 years ago
Jesus I'm friggin' good at guessing. Not so good as far as when they will be around pick-wise, but I submit that was some pretty good pickin' from the woodwork that is college football back in Nov.
Rockmolder
14 years ago
Wow. This article makes very little sense right now. It's amazing how the board switches around in just a few weeks.
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