History lesson: Favre could learn from final years of Namath, Unitas· Page 2

CalifPacker
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16 years ago

IronMan,

I read an article a few years back on Johnny U and I believe the first MVP in 59' was voted by the players in the NFL, not the AP. I think haveing been voted that award by people you played against would mean a lot more than sports writers. JMO.

I also read on another thread here on PackersHome that was discussing Brady & Manning about the number of rings making a player the greatest of all-time. I don't by that regardless if it is the QB position or not. There have been many great players that unfortunitly were not surrounded by exceptional talent.

IMO, the greatest DL was a man that won an NFL title.

David "Deacon" Jones. Nicknamed The Sectarary Of Defence.

There was a study some time back from a guy that dug up the Ram game films from the 60's and counted "sacks" from Deacon. The numbers were staggering, like 22-24 a season in 12-14 games. But, sacks were not part of offical NFL stats back then.

Anyways, my 2 cents...

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DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

16 years ago

#12

"Every man is responsible for his own destiny"

- Lord Raiden

Yeah I am a nerd, but just let that sink in 🙂

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

eap33
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16 years ago

#13

And for Johnny U. Well, did you know he was a THREE TIME MVP? Not just Brett Favre as the media says.

"IronMan" wrote:

Wow after doing a little research, you are right. Johnny Unites won the AP MVP award in 1959, 1964, and 1967, yet on Brett's wikipedia page it says Favre is the only 3 time AP MVP. This deserves its own thread. How has the media got it wrong all these years? Even on packers.com it says Favre is the only 3 time AP MVP. WTF?

http://www.packers.com/team/players/favre_brett/

"CalifPacker" wrote:

I can't find it right now, but this discussion happened a few weeks ago and we found out that JU only got the AP MVP twice (64, 67) but received the UPI MVP '59, not the AP. As much as I love Wikipedia... it's wrong.

NorCal Packer Backer.

CDNRodgersfan
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16 years ago

#14

Not sure but a lot of records are considered only post merger. I could be wrong but Jim Brown might of won 3 too but maybe not. Too lazy to check it. As for the Favre Namath comparison I think it's more fair to compare Favre and Montana. Both still elite QB's being pushed out by a new young gun

Zero2Cool
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13 years ago

#15

I don't think he learned.

longtimefan
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13 years ago

#16

Cali post hard to read

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