dfosterf
15 years ago
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The lure of free agency is too seductive for some players. Andrew Brandt


A lot of Packer fans have been venting in emails lately about the state of the franchise after the embarrassing loss to the Bucs. I understand the pain that Packer Nation is feeling and empathize with it, although I know were only halfway through this 2009 slate. This column is about the Packers, but sorry to disappoint, its not about the current state of affairs in Titletown. Rather, its about a player brought back from the past into the present and near future.



It was with scant notice that the Packers signed old friend Ahman Green, now wearing No. 34 (he couldnt get his old number 30 back from John Kuhn?). After signing Mark Tauscher the week before, it looks like the band from the mid-2000s is back together after breaking up for a while. At this rate, Marco Rivera, William Henderson and Bubba Franks should be expecting calls from Lambeau FIeld soon.

Buried in the stories from the bungle at the bay was the fact that Ahman broke the all-time Packers rushing record of Jim Taylor, an extraordinary accomplishment for a player who left the Packers in the seduction of free agency process.

In attempting to lock up players prior to their walk year, Ahman was the first player approached in that manner in Green Bay, which extended him with a five-year deal a year before he was to be a free agent.

Ahman played out that entire deal, although it was difficult when another player, Clinton Portis, hit the exacta two years before free agency with a trade from Denver and stunning contract from the Redskins, causing the low rumble of discontent from Ahman to percolate. To his credit, however, he was always friendly and courteous and never made his grievances public.

Ahmans last year of his five-year contract was interrupted by a quad injury, and he signed a one-year, incentive-laden deal in 2006 before becoming a free agent for the first time in his career in 2007.

That first taste of free agency was exciting for Ahman. With his former head coach and friend, Mike Sherman (Ahman was referred to by teammates as Ahman Sherman), with the Texans, Houston put on the recruiting blitz -- private plane, floor tickets to a Rockets game, fancy dinner and hotel suite, etc. And, by the way, over $8 million in the first two years of the deal, a good bit more than we were willing to pay.

Ill never forget that day in early March 2007 when, during my sons 10th birthday party at -- where else? -- Lambeau Field, I walked the concourse with my cell phone trying to convince Ahman and his agent that he would regret leaving Green Bay. Ahman lived year-round there, has a large house in the area and another one on a nearby lake. I warned Ahman that the passion of the recruiting visit would quickly become cold embers once he signed. His mind, however, was made up. He was a Texan.

At least he was for two injury-shortened seasons, the second only when he took a pay cut to not be released, which he was prior to this season.Now, 32 months later, Ahman returns to the scene of his glory and sets the all-time Packers rushing record (soon after longtime teammate Donald Driver set the teams all-time receptions record). Ahman could always run; he was a former track star. If he can still show some burst, hell be a productive signing for the Packers.



Free agency can be the Wild West, with money thrown around and promises made, much like college recruiting without the money (we hope). Everyone wants to feel wanted. The problem, however, is that many players leave for the wrong reasons: the seduction of the recruiting pitch, some hard feelings against their incumbent teams and, of course, money. Unlike baseball and basketball, where players can fit seamlessly into their new teams, football is all about fitting into schemes and structures that vary significantly from team to team. Players often jump to new teams in free agency only to discover a new system that they dont fit as well into.

Another problem with free agency is that the new teams dont really know the players. Ahman Green, for instance, was very comfortable with the training staff in Green Bay, a staff that provided him great care and treatment. As a new player with the Texans, he wasnt going to get the same maintenance, no matter how much money they were paying him. Ive heard of many cases like this in which teams call the former teams of players they have acquired realizing the player requires more maintenance than they thought.

The money part of free agency is complicating. At the Packers, I remember when we made a big splash in free agency in 2002 and signed Joe Johnson from the Saints, outspending them in a high-stakes bidding war to get a two-time Pro Bowl defensive end. We became emotional -- a taboo in the negotiations game -- and paid more than we wanted for Joe. He was a good guy and played hard and hurt, but his heart was in New Orleans. He should have never left the Saints.

Ahman never wanted to leave the Packers but was seduced by the money and the glitz of the Texans. He was in Houston two years, but his heart -- and home -- was in Green Bay.

Now Packer fans can go back to venting.



OK, I will.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I would have liked to see him stay. Once I heard how much he was being offered, I didn't blame him for leaving.
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Wade
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15 years ago
I've never had the financial opportunity Ahman had. But, I'm sorry, Andrew, had I been him, I would have done exactly the same thing he did.

Yeah, it didn't turn out as well as he expected. But the Texans didn't just wine and dine him. They put their money where their mouth was. You didn't. Yeah, he was asked to take a pay cut to stay on the team after the injuries,etc. But the Packers would likely have done the same thing. In fact, that's exactly part of the reason that was given at the time for not putting up the extra money.

As a Packer fan, I wish Ahman had never left. But were I him, I would have left, too.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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WhiskeySam
15 years ago
Not to mention the glaring fact that he got injured. So if he had stayed here, he would have been injured and poorer? Green made the best decision for himself, and I can't fault him for that.
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dfosterf
15 years ago
I found (and still find) no fault with anyone for that one.

Here is the newsworthy thing, for me.


I think he's still got it.


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longtimefan
15 years ago

I would have liked to see him stay. Once I heard how much he was being offered, I didn't blame him for leaving.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



but according to Andrew the Packer went up to $7 mill a year compared to the $8 mill from Texans

One mill is that much of an issue?
Wade
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15 years ago
Well, I don't know, but I buy more lottery tickets when the prizes get bigger. And the difference in expected return turns out to be pennies at most.

If someone offered me a million more, even if it was starting from 7 million, yeah, I think I'd take it.

You can do an awful lot with an extra million. Even if the 7 million satisfied all my gratuitous needs for wine, women, song, and books, I could still use that extra to put a roof on my church, give to the college of my choice, etc etc.

Yep. I'd go to Texas.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Gravedigga
15 years ago

Well, I don't know, but I buy more lottery tickets when the prizes get bigger. And the difference in expected return turns out to be pennies at most.

If someone offered me a million more, even if it was starting from 7 million, yeah, I think I'd take it.

You can do an awful lot with an extra million. Even if the 7 million satisfied all my gratuitous needs for wine, women, song, and books, I could still use that extra to put a roof on my church, give to the college of my choice, etc etc.

Yep. I'd go to Texas.

"Wade" wrote:



Lol, i'd go to texas for an extra 30k per year
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longtimefan
15 years ago

Well, I don't know, but I buy more lottery tickets when the prizes get bigger. And the difference in expected return turns out to be pennies at most.

If someone offered me a million more, even if it was starting from 7 million, yeah, I think I'd take it.

You can do an awful lot with an extra million. Even if the 7 million satisfied all my gratuitous needs for wine, women, song, and books, I could still use that extra to put a roof on my church, give to the college of my choice, etc etc.

Yep. I'd go to Texas.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Lol, i'd go to texas for an extra 30k per year

"Wade" wrote:




When your only making 40K,50K or even 100K a year sure is a lot..

but as Andrew tried to tell him he wouldnt like it, they even upped their offer from about $5 mill to $ 7mill, it wasnt enough for Green..

I am sorry but when your ready to make $ 7 mill a year an extra $1 mill shouldnt be the breaking point.

thats about 15%, I took a 10% ( company wide) pay cut this past January and still not sure when it is coming back...I probably could go somewhere else and get that 10% back PLUS another 5%, but I didnt...

Why? Cuz I have been here a while, they have treated me EXCELLENT and like the people...

Geeee...

Almost like the same thing Green was going through
dfosterf
15 years ago

Well, I don't know, but I buy more lottery tickets when the prizes get bigger. And the difference in expected return turns out to be pennies at most.

If someone offered me a million more, even if it was starting from 7 million, yeah, I think I'd take it.

You can do an awful lot with an extra million. Even if the 7 million satisfied all my gratuitous needs for wine, women, song, and books, I could still use that extra to put a roof on my church, give to the college of my choice, etc etc.

Yep. I'd go to Texas.

"longtimefan" wrote:



Lol, i'd go to texas for an extra 30k per year

"Gravedigga" wrote:




When your only making 40K,50K or even 100K a year sure is a lot..

but as Andrew tried to tell him he wouldnt like it, they even upped their offer from about $5 mill to $ 7mill, it wasnt enough for Green..

I am sorry but when your ready to make $ 7 mill a year an extra $1 mill shouldnt be the breaking point.

thats about 15%, I took a 10% ( company wide) pay cut this past January and still not sure when it is coming back...I probably could go somewhere else and get that 10% back PLUS another 5%, but I didnt...

Why? Cuz I have been here a while, they have treated me EXCELLENT and like the people...

Geeee...

Almost like the same thing Green was going through

"Wade" wrote:



Maybe Ahman wanted his diamond-encrusted Pombron SUV with the whale pecker seats option before the environmentalists could get their meaty (less) paws into the issue. 15% of a lot is a lot.

...and the two bottles of vodka are worth more than the vehicle itself...really 
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