nerdmann
15 years ago

I wanted Clifton gone this offseason and was disappointed that he made the final roster. I didn't think he had a prayer of being reliable, and thus far he hasn't been able to stay on his feet for more than a couple of consecutive weeks. Then after he went down with injury, I was pretty sure he'd be rushed back too fast and would promptly reaggravate the injury, because that's what almost always seems to happen with ankles, especially with linemen. People on this board scoff at ankle injuries, but the fact is they can render a man for all practical purposes lame.

So he goes down again. When are we going to reconcile ourselves to the obvious fact that Clifton is no longer the answer -- short term or long term -- to our offensive line woes? And now we want to put our faith in Tauscher, because he's been reliable in the past. I don't get it.

If Rodgers goes down with a season-ending -- or heaven forbid, a career-threatening -- injury, by God, I hope a mob storms the next stockholders meeting. I don't care what philosophy Mike McCarthy may have about showing confidence in his guys and forcing them to get the job done, the fact is they're failing miserably. He needs to find another solution.

25 sacks in 5 games. Pathetic.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




Tauscher was struggling last year even before his injury. He might not have much left in the tank either.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

Tauscher was struggling last year even before his injury. He might not have much left in the tank either.

"nerdmann" wrote:



Really, what did he give up? 2 sacks given up. If that is struggling, let me have it.
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nerdmann
15 years ago

I wanted Clifton gone this offseason and was disappointed that he made the final roster. I didn't think he had a prayer of being reliable, and thus far he hasn't been able to stay on his feet for more than a couple of consecutive weeks. Then after he went down with injury, I was pretty sure he'd be rushed back too fast and would promptly reaggravate the injury, because that's what almost always seems to happen with ankles, especially with linemen. People on this board scoff at ankle injuries, but the fact is they can render a man for all practical purposes lame.

So he goes down again. When are we going to reconcile ourselves to the obvious fact that Clifton is no longer the answer -- short term or long term -- to our offensive line woes? And now we want to put our faith in Tauscher, because he's been reliable in the past. I don't get it.

If Rodgers goes down with a season-ending -- or heaven forbid, a career-threatening -- injury, by God, I hope a mob storms the next stockholders meeting. I don't care what philosophy Mike McCarthy may have about showing confidence in his guys and forcing them to get the job done, the fact is they're failing miserably. He needs to find another solution.

25 sacks in 5 games. Pathetic.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



One question I have for the Ted Thompson apologists on this board - do you still defend him? Look what he's done to the OL. The thing is, he got rid of two overpriced and old Gs, but now we have overpriced and old Ts but they haven't been replaced. And if it's apparent that Cliffy is only a shell of what he once was...

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Ted Thompson has done a very good job overall. The zBS is MM's baby.
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Stevetarded
15 years ago

I wanted Clifton gone this offseason and was disappointed that he made the final roster. I didn't think he had a prayer of being reliable, and thus far he hasn't been able to stay on his feet for more than a couple of consecutive weeks. Then after he went down with injury, I was pretty sure he'd be rushed back too fast and would promptly reaggravate the injury, because that's what almost always seems to happen with ankles, especially with linemen. People on this board scoff at ankle injuries, but the fact is they can render a man for all practical purposes lame.

So he goes down again. When are we going to reconcile ourselves to the obvious fact that Clifton is no longer the answer -- short term or long term -- to our offensive line woes? And now we want to put our faith in Tauscher, because he's been reliable in the past. I don't get it.

If Rodgers goes down with a season-ending -- or heaven forbid, a career-threatening -- injury, by God, I hope a mob storms the next stockholders meeting. I don't care what philosophy Mike McCarthy may have about showing confidence in his guys and forcing them to get the job done, the fact is they're failing miserably. He needs to find another solution.

25 sacks in 5 games. Pathetic.

"nerdmann" wrote:




Tauscher was struggling last year even before his injury. He might not have much left in the tank either.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Tauscher allowed 2 sacks in 13 starts last year and I don't think he had more than a couple penalties.
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nerdmann
15 years ago

Tauscher was struggling last year even before his injury. He might not have much left in the tank either.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Really, what did he give up? 2 sacks given up. If that is struggling, let me have it.

"nerdmann" wrote:




Hope he's an improvement. Lord knows it wouldn't take much.
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DGB454
15 years ago

Than I ever thought!

The interior line blew up. They were just terrible at blocking for both the run AND the pass and I am now becoming a believer in Rodgers' abilities.

I have been his fan but last two games showed that he also has the grit and the toughness to go with his passing ability.

It remains to be seen how well the line will block for him this season. IF they don't perform, what prevents Rodgers from wanting to move on to a team with a better Oline?

"obi1" wrote:



If I were Rodgers I just might be putting feelers out there. How could he possibly have any confidence in this coaching staff getting him better protection ? Just for the sake of his health I wouldn't blame him if he pulled a Cutler.

I love him as our QB. Even more than the last guy that played here. (I forget his name) . I'm glad we have a long term contract with him and I hope our GM and HC figure something out fast before they have to carry him off the field.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

One question I have for the Ted Thompson apologists on this board - do you still defend him? Look what he's done to the OL. The thing is, he got rid of two overpriced and old Gs, but now we have overpriced and old Ts but they haven't been replaced. And if it's apparent that Cliffy is only a shell of what he once was...

"zombieslayer" wrote:



There isn't one person that I can recall that has said Ted has done a good job with the OL. Not sure where this comment is from at all.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago


There isn't one person that I can recall that has said Ted has done a good job with the OL. Not sure where this comment is from at all.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Has to do with Campen hate. Not defending Campen, but I think he's part of the problem, not the entire problem. Sure, I agree with IronMan that he needs to go, but I also think we haven't had enough to work with.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

There isn't one person that I can recall that has said Ted has done a good job with the OL. Not sure where this comment is from at all.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Has to do with Campen hate. Not defending Campen, but I think he's part of the problem, not the entire problem. Sure, I agree with IronMan that he needs to go, but I also think we haven't had enough to work with.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



So why ask about Ted's supposed apologists? I really haven't seen anyone say Ted has done a good job with the OL. Even Ted backers say he needs to get OL big time. Doesn't register for me. I'm not making the connection.

Campen is a poor choice for OL coach. If it was the scheme he played in, maybe, but he's coaching a scheme he's not familiar with. Good or bad talent provided by the GM is not going to make much difference for a coach who doesn't know the scheme that well.
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evad04
15 years ago

I wanted Clifton gone this offseason and was disappointed that he made the final roster. I didn't think he had a prayer of being reliable, and thus far he hasn't been able to stay on his feet for more than a couple of consecutive weeks. Then after he went down with injury, I was pretty sure he'd be rushed back too fast and would promptly reaggravate the injury, because that's what almost always seems to happen with ankles, especially with linemen. People on this board scoff at ankle injuries, but the fact is they can render a man for all practical purposes lame.

So he goes down again. When are we going to reconcile ourselves to the obvious fact that Clifton is no longer the answer -- short term or long term -- to our offensive line woes? And now we want to put our faith in Tauscher, because he's been reliable in the past. I don't get it.

If Rodgers goes down with a season-ending -- or heaven forbid, a career-threatening -- injury, by God, I hope a mob storms the next stockholders meeting. I don't care what philosophy Mike McCarthy may have about showing confidence in his guys and forcing them to get the job done, the fact is they're failing miserably. He needs to find another solution.

25 sacks in 5 games. Pathetic.

"djcubez" wrote:



Last season I was expecting Clifton to be gone this year. That sort of died when Tauscher went down. No team ever want to go into and off season having to replace both bookends. I believe in Tauscher, because he is an extremely smart man and player, and plays with fundamentals, not with athleticism. I also want him healthy and reliable, so this next off season we are no longer in the position of need trying to find two starting tackles.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:


I'm just slightly confused that we are in this position. We picked Raji at number nine overall and he's barely made an impact this season. No, I'm not saying we shouldn't have picked him, I'm just saying in hindsight we might have been better off drafting a tackle at that spot.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:


We might have been better off right now had we drafted an OT. Thankfully, we're only five games in. I know people like to see immediate results and Raji hasn't delivered in that category ... but it's entirely too early to speculate as to which player we should have taken. Based on the information the Packers' front office had, the best two players on the board were Crabtree and Raji. Was tackle a bigger need? At this point, I'd say obviously. But we're not one rookie OT away from a Super Bowl.

Not a big deal, but I think draft re-evaluation is premature at this point.
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