dyeah_gb
15 years ago
I am surprised you see things taht way Zombie

The numbers don't lie: Take Cunningham versus Elway

Elway: 234 Games with 3468 yds rushing
Cunningham: 161 games with 4922 yards rushing

Steve Young I will give you. I was surprised to see 169 Games with 4241 yds; almost comparable to Cunningham

Vince Young: 34 games 980 yds. At this rate he would have ~5000yds at 150 games but he was demoted to second string.

Vick: 76 games with 3879 yds.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
zombieslayer
15 years ago
Urgh! I can't believe I forgot Randall Cunningham.

I'm getting old.

EDIT: Earlier in Elway's career, he'd take off running a lot. Then there were times when the coaches told him not to scramble and to complete passes. Then he went back to scrambling later on in his career.

So yes, Elway's a scrambling QB, and was a dang good one. But Cunningham and Vick were both better, as was Steve Young. Just because the three of them were better though doesn't mean Elway wasn't a scrambling QB. I had to watch Elway as my brother was a Broncos fan (we moved around a lot - his formative years we were in Colorado).
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Cheesey
15 years ago
Man........you can be a convicted felon and play in the NFL.....but be a conservative talk show host, and you get ousted.
Real enlightening.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Limbaugh is no conservative. He's a freaking right-leaning shock-jock hack. It's shtick and it's not even very convincing. He's a Republican, not a conservative, and he's frankly nauseating. :P

But I agree, that shouldn't have factored into the decision whether or not to let him be an owner. Not that Limbaugh ever believed he had a prayer of becoming an owner. He may be obnoxious, but he's also intelligent, and he knew this would bring him priceless publicity.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
There's alot of things Limbaugh says thats correct. And truth is, many people feel the same way as he does, but are afraid to say anything, for fear of being attacked by the lefties.
AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson went on the rampage to make sure Limbaugh didn't get to be part owner. Yet those two "hacks" are 2 of the biggest racists i have ever seen. But because they are BLACK racists, they get away with everything. Thats fact. The lefties embrace those clowns as if they were Martin Luther King. And King would roll over in his grave seeing what these people say and do in the name of God.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
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Porforis
15 years ago

There's alot of things Limbaugh says thats correct. And truth is, many people feel the same way as he does, but are afraid to say anything, for fear of being attacked by the lefties.
AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson went on the rampage to make sure Limbaugh didn't get to be part owner. Yet those two "hacks" are 2 of the biggest racists i have ever seen. But because they are BLACK racists, they get away with everything. Thats fact. The lefties embrace those clowns as if they were Martin Luther King. And King would roll over in his grave seeing what these people say and do in the name of God.
They should be ashamed of themselves.

"Cheesey" wrote:



This is kind of a pet peeve that I have about Rush too. You're bringing up perfectly valid points, but by using terms like "lefties" people are going to take you less seriously and assume that you're talking out of anger, not wisdom. "People on the left" works just as well, a simple modification that changes the entire tone of the post, or in Rush's case (Mark Levin as well), his verbal message.

The more you give people you agree with any room at all to call you crazy, paranoid, rude, etc, the more you're creating an opening for people to avoid your legitimate points and focus on YOU rather than your message.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
You're right. I think we should say, "Individuals of Communist ideological persuasion" rather than "Commies."
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Porforis
15 years ago

You're right. I think we should say, "Individuals of Communist ideological persuasion" rather than "Commies."

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Hell no, Commies are fair game. And I do mean that in a literal sense.
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15 years ago

You're right. I think we should say, "Individuals of Communist ideological persuasion" rather than "Commies."

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Give me a good Commie any day. Their ideology may be idiotic and delusional, but at least they're honest idiots.

Compare the Communist Manifesto with the average Obama/Pelosi/SocioDem babble --- I'd take Karl and Friedrich and call it "social improvement."

No, sorry, that's babble, too, is it. Call it "better."
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I wholeheartedly agree. The Communist Manifesto is one of the better-written ideological documents out there. I own it along with a copy of the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. 😉
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beast (18m) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (28m) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (39m) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (49m) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (1h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (1h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (1h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (2h) : I see what you did there Mucky
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Mucky Tundra (2h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
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Zero2Cool (3h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (3h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (4h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (4h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (5h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (5h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (5h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (5h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (5h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (5h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (5h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (5h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (5h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (5h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (5h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (5h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (5h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (5h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (5h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (5h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (5h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (5h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (5h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (5h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
packerfanoutwest (5h) : falcons are already ahead of us
beast (6h) : Packers will get in
beast (6h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen
packerfanoutwest (6h) : they still are in the playoffs
packerfanoutwest (6h) : If Packers lose the remaining games,,,,at 10-7
Zero2Cool (7h) : We can say it. We don't play.
Mucky Tundra (9h) : But to say they are in is looking past the Saints
Mucky Tundra (9h) : That said, their odds are very favorable with a >99% chance of making the playoffs entering this week's games
Mucky Tundra (9h) : Packers are not in and have not clinched a playoff spot.
buckeyepackfan (9h) : Packers are in, they need to keep winning to improve their seed#.
Mucky Tundra (18h) : Getting help would have been nice, but helping ourselves should always be the plan
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