dyeah_gb
15 years ago
I am surprised you see things taht way Zombie

The numbers don't lie: Take Cunningham versus Elway

Elway: 234 Games with 3468 yds rushing
Cunningham: 161 games with 4922 yards rushing

Steve Young I will give you. I was surprised to see 169 Games with 4241 yds; almost comparable to Cunningham

Vince Young: 34 games 980 yds. At this rate he would have ~5000yds at 150 games but he was demoted to second string.

Vick: 76 games with 3879 yds.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
zombieslayer
15 years ago
Urgh! I can't believe I forgot Randall Cunningham.

I'm getting old.

EDIT: Earlier in Elway's career, he'd take off running a lot. Then there were times when the coaches told him not to scramble and to complete passes. Then he went back to scrambling later on in his career.

So yes, Elway's a scrambling QB, and was a dang good one. But Cunningham and Vick were both better, as was Steve Young. Just because the three of them were better though doesn't mean Elway wasn't a scrambling QB. I had to watch Elway as my brother was a Broncos fan (we moved around a lot - his formative years we were in Colorado).
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Cheesey
15 years ago
Man........you can be a convicted felon and play in the NFL.....but be a conservative talk show host, and you get ousted.
Real enlightening.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Limbaugh is no conservative. He's a freaking right-leaning shock-jock hack. It's shtick and it's not even very convincing. He's a Republican, not a conservative, and he's frankly nauseating. :P

But I agree, that shouldn't have factored into the decision whether or not to let him be an owner. Not that Limbaugh ever believed he had a prayer of becoming an owner. He may be obnoxious, but he's also intelligent, and he knew this would bring him priceless publicity.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
There's alot of things Limbaugh says thats correct. And truth is, many people feel the same way as he does, but are afraid to say anything, for fear of being attacked by the lefties.
AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson went on the rampage to make sure Limbaugh didn't get to be part owner. Yet those two "hacks" are 2 of the biggest racists i have ever seen. But because they are BLACK racists, they get away with everything. Thats fact. The lefties embrace those clowns as if they were Martin Luther King. And King would roll over in his grave seeing what these people say and do in the name of God.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
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Porforis
15 years ago

There's alot of things Limbaugh says thats correct. And truth is, many people feel the same way as he does, but are afraid to say anything, for fear of being attacked by the lefties.
AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson went on the rampage to make sure Limbaugh didn't get to be part owner. Yet those two "hacks" are 2 of the biggest racists i have ever seen. But because they are BLACK racists, they get away with everything. Thats fact. The lefties embrace those clowns as if they were Martin Luther King. And King would roll over in his grave seeing what these people say and do in the name of God.
They should be ashamed of themselves.

"Cheesey" wrote:



This is kind of a pet peeve that I have about Rush too. You're bringing up perfectly valid points, but by using terms like "lefties" people are going to take you less seriously and assume that you're talking out of anger, not wisdom. "People on the left" works just as well, a simple modification that changes the entire tone of the post, or in Rush's case (Mark Levin as well), his verbal message.

The more you give people you agree with any room at all to call you crazy, paranoid, rude, etc, the more you're creating an opening for people to avoid your legitimate points and focus on YOU rather than your message.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
You're right. I think we should say, "Individuals of Communist ideological persuasion" rather than "Commies."
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Porforis
15 years ago

You're right. I think we should say, "Individuals of Communist ideological persuasion" rather than "Commies."

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Hell no, Commies are fair game. And I do mean that in a literal sense.
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15 years ago

You're right. I think we should say, "Individuals of Communist ideological persuasion" rather than "Commies."

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Give me a good Commie any day. Their ideology may be idiotic and delusional, but at least they're honest idiots.

Compare the Communist Manifesto with the average Obama/Pelosi/SocioDem babble --- I'd take Karl and Friedrich and call it "social improvement."

No, sorry, that's babble, too, is it. Call it "better."
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I wholeheartedly agree. The Communist Manifesto is one of the better-written ideological documents out there. I own it along with a copy of the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. 😉
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