YERCELL
15 years ago
No matter what you think of the drafts, the fact of the matter is these players haven't made the Packers a Super Bowl contender.
longtimefan
15 years ago
New England

here is link to their draft

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=3200&type=team 


2005
1 32 Logan Mankins G
3 84 Ellis Hobbs CB
3 100 Nick Kaczur T
4 133 James Sanders SAF
5 170 Ryan Claridge LB
7 230 Matt Cassel QB
7 255 Andy Stokes TE

2006
1 21 Laurence Maroney RB
2 36 Chad Jackson WR ----gone from league?
3 86 David Thomas TE
4 106 Garrett Mills RB
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB
6 205 Dan Stevenson G
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT
7 229 Willie Andrews CB

2007
1 24 Brandon Meriweather DB
4 127 Kareem Brown DT
5 171 Clint Oldenburg T
6 180 Justin Rogers LB
6 202 Mike Richardson DB
6 208 Justise Hairston RB
6 209 Corey Hilliard OT
7 211 Oscar Lua LB
7 247 Mike Elgin G

2008
1 10 Jerod Mayo ILB
2 62 Terrence Wheatley CB
3 78 Shawn Crable OLB
3 94 Kevin O'Connell QB
4 129 Jonathan Wilhite CB
5 153 Matt Slater WR
6 197 Bo Ruud LB
djcubez
15 years ago

No matter what you think of the drafts, the fact of the matter is these players haven't made the Packers a Super Bowl contender.

"YERCELL" wrote:


So making it to the championship game doesn't count as a Super Bowl contender?

God I wish we didn't have our bye week so early in the year because all we get is droll shit like this. How many times do I have to say this: we're fucking 2-2 after a quarter of a season playing under an entirely new defensive staff and scheme and throwing in a first year starter at RT. It's gonna be a bit rough at the beginning, that's why a season is 16 games.
djcubez
15 years ago

New England

here is link to their draft

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=3200&type=team 


2005
1 32 Logan Mankins G
3 84 Ellis Hobbs CB
3 100 Nick Kaczur T
4 133 James Sanders SAF
5 170 Ryan Claridge LB
7 230 Matt Cassel QB
7 255 Andy Stokes TE

2006
1 21 Laurence Maroney RB
2 36 Chad Jackson WR ----gone from league?
3 86 David Thomas TE
4 106 Garrett Mills RB
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB
6 205 Dan Stevenson G
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT
7 229 Willie Andrews CB

2007
1 24 Brandon Meriweather DB
4 127 Kareem Brown DT
5 171 Clint Oldenburg T
6 180 Justin Rogers LB
6 202 Mike Richardson DB
6 208 Justise Hairston RB
6 209 Corey Hilliard OT
7 211 Oscar Lua LB
7 247 Mike Elgin G

2008
1 10 Jerod Mayo ILB
2 62 Terrence Wheatley CB
3 78 Shawn Crable OLB
3 94 Kevin O'Connell QB
4 129 Jonathan Wilhite CB
5 153 Matt Slater WR
6 197 Bo Ruud LB

"longtimefan" wrote:



Wow I don't know the whole depth chart through and through but I only see a few starters in all of those.
warhawk
15 years ago

No matter what you think of the drafts, the fact of the matter is these players haven't made the Packers a Super Bowl contender.

"YERCELL" wrote:



So were you out of the country in '07? I, for one here, have no intention of thinking that this team cannot rise to the challenge and be a bonafide playoff team before it's over.
"The train is leaving the station."
IronMan
15 years ago
His drafts have been average. Not really much to show for after 5 years.
Silentio
15 years ago
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Gregg Jennings

...?
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djcubez
15 years ago
LOL and this guy is upset that the last 3 picks we made in this years draft haven't seen the field yet. Isn't that a good thing? Plus he's so quick to label players busts that haven't even had a chance to prove themselves yet.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
http://www.packers.com/team/how_built/ 

Pre Ted
[ul]1 Trade (1 Starter)
6 Draft (4 Starters)
1 Free Agency (1 Starter) [/ul]

Post Ted
[ul]2 Trade (1 Starter)
32 Draft (11 Starter, 3 IR)
13 Free Agency (3 Starter, 1 IR)
2 Waivers (1 Starter) [/ul]
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masseyattack
15 years ago
Thompson's main problem, in my opinion, is his failure to hit consistently with high picks. The bottom half of the draft is a crapshoot, so I don't care if 6th and 7th rounders aren't around in a few years from now.

If you look at his first and second round picks, however, we have this:

2005: Rodgers (elite starter), Collins (good starter), Murphy (injured, but always looked a bit small/slow to me).

2006: Hawk (adequate starter, massive dissapointment), Jennings (elite starter),

2007: Harrell (bust), Jackson (near bust, contributor but never looked close to starting a game)

2008: Nelson (adequate 3rd WR), Brohm (bust), Lee (injured/bust)

2009: Raji and Matthews - Too early to tell but both have great potential.

Putting aside the 2009 class we have:

2 elite starters (Rodgers, Jennings)
1 good starter (Collins)
1 adequate starter (Hawk) - Considering he was the 5th overall pick, he's a borderline bust.
2 contributors (Nelson, Jackson). Jackson has been a disappointment.
4 busts/injured (Murphy, Brohm, Harrell, Lee)

As far as I'm concerned, although first and second round picks aren't guaranteed, at the very least they should be contributing. It's unacceptable to have four first and second round picks bust in 4 seasons (not counting 2009). On top of that Hawk has been pretty awful for the 5th overall pick, but I guess he shows up every week, it could be worse. Finally, Brandon Jackson is doing a job a free agent could do - 3rd down back, he's never looked like an NFL starter. So, pessimistically, we have 4 busts and 2 disappointments/underachievers.
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Zero2Cool (22h) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
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beast (25-Apr) : Rip the Packers and getting the fans yelling and booing him
beast (25-Apr) : Super competitive Bears fan and WWE "superstar" wrestler, Seth Rollins is supposed to announce a Bears pick and absolutely rip Packers
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buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : He asked me who I thought The Browns were taking.
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : 2. Would of had to wear Browns gear all week. NOPE I'll watch from my living room.
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