longtimefan
15 years ago
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So it happens to the Bucs and people dont blame their GM, but happens to the Packers and its all Teds fault

About a week or more into training camp last season, Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden went to bed with visions of regular-season touchdown passes dancing in his head.

He woke up the next day to discover nothing had changed . . . .

Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese were still his guys.

Gruden thought his quarterback for the 2008 season was going to be none other than Brett Favre. But the Green Bay Packers decided to trade Favre to the New York Jets.

"I talked to Brett on the telephone," Gruden said Wednesday during a conference call with reporters. "I think if you talk to Brett yourself - both of us thought he was coming to Tampa. I went to bed about 20 minutes after 12 or 12:30 (a.m.) thinking we had Brett Favre. I was sure we had Brett Favre.

"When I woke up the next day, Santa Claus didn't arrive. It was a sad day for me."

This season, Gruden is an analyst on ESPN's "Monday Night Football," working with Mike Tirico and Ron Jaworski.

"My understanding was we had it done," Gruden said. "(Tampa Bay general manager) Bruce Allen was working with Ted Thompson in terms of the compensation. And I really don't think any of us knew there was another partner that was willing to get involved at that point. So I think we were both thrown a curve ball. Both of us, Brett and I, thought we were going to get the deal done. There was another partner that developed later that evening, somewhere across the next seven or eight hours."

Cheesey
15 years ago
Wow......"Randy Moss" all over!
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Formo
15 years ago

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So it happens to the Bucs and people dont blame their GM, but happens to the Packers and its all Teds fault

About a week or more into training camp last season, Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden went to bed with visions of regular-season touchdown passes dancing in his head.

He woke up the next day to discover nothing had changed . . . .

Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese were still his guys.

Gruden thought his quarterback for the 2008 season was going to be none other than Brett Favre. But the Green Bay Packers decided to trade Favre to the New York Jets.

"I talked to Brett on the telephone," Gruden said Wednesday during a conference call with reporters. "I think if you talk to Brett yourself - both of us thought he was coming to Tampa. I went to bed about 20 minutes after 12 or 12:30 (a.m.) thinking we had Brett Favre. I was sure we had Brett Favre.

"When I woke up the next day, Santa Claus didn't arrive. It was a sad day for me."

This season, Gruden is an analyst on ESPN's "Monday Night Football," working with Mike Tirico and Ron Jaworski.

"My understanding was we had it done," Gruden said. "(Tampa Bay general manager) Bruce Allen was working with Ted Thompson in terms of the compensation. And I really don't think any of us knew there was another partner that was willing to get involved at that point. So I think we were both thrown a curve ball. Both of us, Brett and I, thought we were going to get the deal done. There was another partner that developed later that evening, somewhere across the next seven or eight hours."

"longtimefan" wrote:



The Bucs GM didn't have the authority to trade Favre away.. Teddy Thompson did. Now, yeah, Bruce Allen dropped the ball a bit too, but ultimately Thompson was in the drivers seat. That's why he gets the 'blame' in some eyes..
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Trade Favre to a Week 4 opponent OR Trade him to a team you won't play in a few years?

Favre was/is pissed at the Packers. With that motivation, you don't want to go against him.

Yeah, TOUGH decision.

The 'blame' ... please. Go back to sniffy sniffy Favre crotchy crotchy you purple hypocrite! ha, ha HAAAAAAAAAA
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Formo
15 years ago

Trade Favre to a Week 4 opponent OR Trade him to a team you won't play in a few years?

Favre was/is pissed at the Packers. With that motivation, you don't want to go against him.

Yeah, TOUGH decision.

The 'blame' ... please. Go back to sniffy sniffy Favre crotchy crotchy you purple hypocrite! ha, ha HAAAAAAAAAA

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You talking to LTF? Cause, uhhh.. Last I checked, I didn't bring up the blame game.
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4PackGirl
15 years ago
i hate it when i go to bed thinking the guy's a pirate & he's not. MEN!! 😉
Formo
15 years ago

i hate it when i go to bed thinking the guy's a pirate & he's not. MEN!! ;)

"4PackGirl" wrote:



LOL

What kind of pirate are we talkin' about here? Butt pirate?!

That's TOO MUCH information!! lol
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Trade Favre to a Week 4 opponent OR Trade him to a team you won't play in a few years?

Favre was/is pissed at the Packers. With that motivation, you don't want to go against him.

Yeah, TOUGH decision.

The 'blame' ... please. Go back to sniffy sniffy Favre crotchy crotchy you purple hypocrite! ha, ha HAAAAAAAAAA

"Formo" wrote:



You talking to LTF? Cause, uhhh.. Last I checked, I didn't bring up the blame game.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Typical Vikings fan, see only what you want and ignore the rest. You had mentioned "blame" in your post.

The Bucs GM didn't have the authority to trade Favre away.. Teddy Thompson did. Now, yeah, Bruce Allen dropped the ball a bit too, but ultimately Thompson was in the drivers seat. That's why he gets the 'blame' in some eyes..

"Formo" wrote:



See it now?
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longtimefan
15 years ago

Trade Favre to a Week 4 opponent OR Trade him to a team you won't play in a few years?

Favre was/is pissed at the Packers. With that motivation, you don't want to go against him.

Yeah, TOUGH decision.

The 'blame' ... please. Go back to sniffy sniffy Favre crotchy crotchy you purple hypocrite! ha, ha HAAAAAAAAAA

"Formo" wrote:



You talking to LTF? Cause, uhhh.. Last I checked, I didn't bring up the blame game.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Actually my comment was in reference to Randy moss debacle.

Farve supporters blamed Ted on it ENTIRELY

Now that it happened to the gm of the Bucs the EXACT same thing, it isnt Allens fault it still is Ted's

I tell ya the Favre supporters are such hypocrites it is just unbelievable
dhazer
15 years ago

Trade Favre to a Week 4 opponent OR Trade him to a team you won't play in a few years?

Favre was/is pissed at the Packers. With that motivation, you don't want to go against him.

Yeah, TOUGH decision.

The 'blame' ... please. Go back to sniffy sniffy Favre crotchy crotchy you purple hypocrite! ha, ha HAAAAAAAAAA

"longtimefan" wrote:



You talking to LTF? Cause, uhhh.. Last I checked, I didn't bring up the blame game.

"Formo" wrote:



Actually my comment was in reference to Randy moss debacle.

Farve supporters blamed Ted on it ENTIRELY

Now that it happened to the gm of the Bucs the EXACT same thing, it isnt Allens fault it still is Ted's

I tell ya the Favre supporters are such hypocrites it is just unbelievable

"Zero2Cool" wrote:





Why is it people seem to forget that Moss was a FA the following year and Moss had made statements that he wouldn't play for the Packers and Ted Thompson but thats ok we understand you Ted Thompson crotch sniffers don't want to remember that part 😛
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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