Barbre doesn't that many penalties really, which was the anti-boner in Tony Moll. Tony Moll jokes stemmed from the penalties, not from the fact he sucked (which he did too).

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Which means that we need new material.

Which is why I didn't mention Barbre or Moll. And don't get me wrong, I love Clifton, I just don't understand how he can not, after all these years, get the snap count right. Maybe it's just the nature of the beast protecting the QB's blind side.

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Just the nature of some Olineman. Some jump some don't. I remember how bad Earl Dotson was at jumping, and once Tauscher took over, pretty much never had to worry about that again.

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Personally I think it picked up after he came back from the injuries, I think he knows he is a step slow to the corner and he tries to jump the count to give himself a little bit of an edge to make up for the slow step out and into his base.

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Did you notice he "Carrol" is wearing #31 for the Jets?
Who does he think he is, AL Harris???

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we cant make fun of Barbre getting flags first off hes not fast enough to get a false start penalty and he sure as hell can't get called for holding becuase the d-lineman is past him to fast for him to grab 😛

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Lol, nice.

That reminder me off something, though. Spitz had quite a streak going. Did anyone else notice the remark they made? Didn't have a single holding call in all of 2008. And that all while being argualby the best performer on the O-line (together with Clifton).

Coming back to Clifton. When he holds, it's nearly always functional. At least, from what I've seen. He doesn't just pull a man down, but when someone has a clean shot on the QB and it'll be a certain sack/fumble, he pretty often seems to grab him down.

Maybe it's not totally the truth, but I just have a soft spot for the man.