bozz_2006
15 years ago
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dfosterf
15 years ago

Kind of off topic, but not really.

I read in a book that was about the "Inner Workings Of NFL Teams"

It stated that any player that was drafted in the Third Round and lower DOES NOT NEED AN AGENT and are basically giving away a percentage of their earnings by hiring one.

Now, they may need an agent later at the end of their contract if they excell... But most do not.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



This is not an argument, but I'd like to hear your opinion on that after you have read the series of articles posted by Andrew Brandt over at National Football Post regarding rookie contracts.

My suspicion is that the rookies would have their lunch handed to them on such seemingly mundane matters as to the nature of the settlement in the event of injury, when that injury came, etc. It is interesting reading. Look for "The Business of football". I'd like to hear if you still feel that way after having read those. Again, not arguing, would like the insight.

As to the subject of the thread, perfectly understandable that some are in "vent" mode right now. I don't think it's hate, just a need to express frustration. The "meat and potato" thread on the actual subject is the far more lengthy one dealing with who is at fault. That one has some real "hate" in it, including quite a load of it from yours truly, but pretty fairly directed, and pretty specific.
go.pack.go.
15 years ago
I also disagree with all of the "hating", calling Raji a "twinkie eater" and a "glorified DE". That's what you think of our 1st round selection?
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Guys, he WAS a DE in college and so far in the preseason he's been used primarily as a DE. What the hell is wrong with stating a fact?
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dhazer
15 years ago
cmon now this was expected by me and called right after the draft. Remember who has taken Raji under his wing.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Wade
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15 years ago
Short point (an aphorism from my law school days, used to explain why even someone trained as a lawyer should hire a(nother) lawyer to represent him/her in adversary proceedings): Represent yourself, and be assured that you will have a fool for a client.

Longer point: If I had a son with the skill sets of a NFL first round draft choice, I'd tell him to get a pit bull of an agent. Someone not afraid to be obnoxiously aggressive on his behalf and take all sorts of crap from fans like me for it. Someone who could care less about the "team" who drafted him.

As a fan I hate holdouts. And I'm happy to call agents "scum" when the holdout might affect "my" team. But if I were in Raji's shoes, I'd be looking to hire the biggest prick possible as my agent if I were convinced that that prick was going to be the most zealous on my behalf.

And if the market for someone drafted in my position starts at twelve gazillion dollars, a zealous agent is not doing his job unless his negotiating starts somewhere well above 12 gazillion dollars; and unless he gets his client *at least* 12 gazillion dollars.

And let us not forget, the NFL is *not* a free market. Raji has exactly three options. He plays for the Packers. He goes back into next years draft. Or he does something other than play NFL football. He doesn't get to play for another football team this year. Period. That single fact gives the Packers huge bargaining power.

Enough all by itself to justify hiring a pit bull of an agent.

Add in the fact that Raji even if he majored in "sports agent management" or some such, has nowhere near his agent's skill set.

I majored in econ and management in college. I have advanced degrees in both law and econ. I've *taught* business majors for close to 20 years. I've practiced law. And I wouldn't dream of representing myself had I skills that could draw a multi-million dollar employment contract.

I might have a bit more skill at choosing a representative than Raji. I hope I would, anyway. But I'd use that skill to figure out who was the most zealous of representatives. Not to figure out who was best at making nicey-nicey.

The time to become a "team player" is *after* you sign your first NFL contract. Not before.

The job of an agent is not to get what his client "should be willing to take." The job of an agent is to get as much on his client's behalf as his client's employer is willing to give. Nothing else.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Guys, he WAS a DE in college and so far in the preseason he's been used primarily as a DE. What the hell is wrong with stating a fact?

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He was? In most of the footage I've seen, he played 4-3 DT next to Ron Brace.

Anyway, I do put some of the blame on Raji. Of course, he's taking advice and hold-out tactics from his agent, but he was the one who made the promise to be there and get in camp.

Of course, most of this just goes besides him (I think), he has some power here, obviously, but I asume that it's mainly the agent (and the team) here who's stalling things. I just hope that at least the Jaguars and Bills start signing their guys. Those'll be some decent benchmarks for a contract, even without Crabtree signed. Lets just keep that guy the 49ers' problem.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
+1 to Wade for one of the most articulate, cogent, well-reasoned posts ever to appear on this forum.

+1 to Rock for correcting a silly mistake on my part.

+1 to anyone else who's willing to flatter me for an applause point.
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go.pack.go.
15 years ago
Wow, nonstop, you're looking very nice today!
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

+1 to Wade for one of the most articulate, cogent, well-reasoned posts ever to appear on this forum.

+1 to Rock for correcting a silly mistake on my part.

+1 to anyone else who's willing to flatter me for an applause point.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



No problem, that's what I'm here for. Your posts are always riddled with mistakes. :downtown:
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