Pack93z
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15 years ago
Yes I am mildly disappointed that neither Raji or Matthews are signed at this point. From the ballclub's perspective, there is no reason that at least Matthews deal isn't done a later first round pick.. but IMO, Raji is more critical in the big picture.

We are two days away from the start of camp and neither is signed.. this isn't panicking.. this is a mild vent that we are sitting here in this position.

There is no reason for it... get these boys into camp on time Russ.

Yes, this is criticism against our front office, we have had no distractions to speak of yet here we sit.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Agents. They are the ones holding their clients back from signing because they do not want to be leap frogged by a contract from a player picked later than theres.

It's not the teams, it's the agents.
Agents 60%
Teams 40%
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Jacob
15 years ago
yep, not worried about it at alllll

but whats the 3 and the 8 for in your sig zero?
longtimefan
15 years ago
Hawk signed on 7-28

Harrell 7-27
wpr
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15 years ago
I too want to see the players signed and in camp when it begins. I hate having to wait for them to show up.
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rabidgopher04
15 years ago

but whats the 3 and the 8 for in your sig zero?

"Jacob" wrote:



Dale Earnhardt (3) and Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (8).

lol...and I don't even watch NASCAR.
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beast
15 years ago

but whats the 3 and the 8 for in your sig zero?

"rabidgopher04" wrote:



Dale Earnhardt (3) and Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (8).

lol...and I don't even watch NASCAR.

"Jacob" wrote:



lol ... then why do you have it in a football sig? Also I think Jr. is now #88 ... but I'm not sure about that... I do follow kinda... well not really...

As for them not signed yet I'm guessing about 85% to 99% of the contract is already worked out but they're just waiting for other to sign to see what other got.......

also one of them (I think it was Raji) .... promised their was no chance, no chance at all he'll be holding out... he'll be there ready to work day one....
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d810d9ec2&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true 

Signings are slowly coming in as of late. The 2 QBs where signed nearly directly after the draft, but the other 3 guys have all been recent signings.

I don't know when Raji will be signed, but Matthews should be signed soon. I think that you should have your late first round draft picks signed before TC, at least. Would be great if you could see what they gave the 22nd pick, but the 28th pick could be a good benchmark for the Matthews deal.

As for Raji, I just hope that the 49ers don't break the bank on the Crabtree contract, or we could have to give away some serious money. Best thing that could happen is that we sign Raji anytime soon and hope that the agent isn't expecting to big an inflation from last years Nr. 9 pick, Keith Rivers. 6 years, $23 million ($15.6M guaranteed).

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d808c2409&template=with-video&confirm=true 
Pack93z
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15 years ago

Agents. They are the ones holding their clients back from signing because they do not want to be leap frogged by a contract from a player picked later than theres.

It's not the teams, it's the agents.
Agents 60%
Teams 40%

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Alot of that is pure cop out speak from the teams part.. pointing fingers elsewhere... someone has to set the pace for the first round signings.. and it isn't like we have been burning up the free agent wire or having to deal with alot of reinking our own players.

Yes some of this is on the agents, no doubt... but teams can push this along.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
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15 years ago
Again.. not overly worried or upset.. just disappointed.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/52032117.html 

The Packers didn't have a first-round holdout of any significant length under former negotiator Andrew Brandt, who after eight years surprisingly was not offered a contract for 2008. Ball, who has considerable negotiating experience with other NFL clubs, has yet to complete a first-round deal for the Packers because Thompson traded out of the round during his first year with the club.

Matthews' deal could get done faster than Raji's because of where he was selected. His agents completed a deal Wednesday with the 28th pick, Buffalo center Eric Wood, and they also represent the 27th pick, Indianapolis running back Donald Brown.

Having already set the market with the 28th pick, the 27th and 26th shouldn't be that hard to do for the agents.

Raji's deal doesn't have to depend necessarily on the financial packages the picks around him receive, but things could be complicated because the No. 10 pick, San Francisco's Michael Crabtree, fell only because he had an injured foot at draft time. He'll argue that he should be paid like a top-5 pick and if the 49ers give in, it will set the bar high for other agents with top-10 clients.


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Zero2Cool (9h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (12h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (12h) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (14h) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (14h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (14h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (14h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (14h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (14h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (14h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (14h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (14h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (14h) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (14h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (14h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (15h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
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