Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Perhaps there could be room on the Packers' roster for a Derrick Brooks?

Another snip from MMQB :

It's happening to Derrick Brooks. After 11 Pro Bowls, six first-team all-pro nods, one Super Bowl victory and one Defensive Player of the Year award, football is saying to him, "We don't need you anymore.''

He always knew it would happen, and he's prepared himself for a career after football as well as anyone can, but it's happening too fast, and he's not really ready to go. He can't believe he's in his 17th week of unemployment after being cut by the Bucs, and no team in the NFL has offered him a chance to sign, even for relative pennies.

I'm stunned by it, quite frankly. I don't care if the guy gets wheeled into a locker room with two broken legs. Derrick Brooks is a football player's football player, one of the best students of the game I've ever seen. He keeps voluminous notes, he watches hours of tape on days off, he calls his coaches after midnight in the off-season to brainstorm. (True story. Ask the new Seattle defensive coordinator, Gus Bradley, formerly the Tampa Bay linebackers coach, about Brooks calling late one spring Saturday night with an X-and-O idea.) And to think that 31 teams in the National Football League can't use one of 53 spots on a roster for a leader like Brooks who still has the needle on one-quarter ... I don't get it. I called around the league to find out why, and I got a bunch of he's not the same Brooks ... we're trying to get younger ... he's not quick enough for our scheme. Blah, blah, blah.

I understand an NFL team is going to employ between six and eight linebackers, usually, depending on whether the team runs a 3-4 or 4-3, and I understand that Brooks isn't going to be an every-down player at 36. So the book says if you're going to have a linebacker playing 20 snaps a game, he'd better play a huge role on special teams. And Brooks, at his age, wouldn't be the kamikaze type you'd want out there. So it comes down to this: An NFL coach would have to keep one fewer special-teams demon in exchange for having one of the best leaders in the league. And that's why Brooks sits home in Florida today, waiting for the phone to ring.

But there might be something else.

"I'll tell you the real reason,'' his friend Warren Sapp said over the weekend. "Because it's not the same for the veterans anymore. The NFL doesn't need us. In this NFL, the old vets don't factor in. The kids don't listen to nobody. Nobody! My last year in Oakland, I'd try to talk to some of the kids. Tommy Kelly, Terdell Sands. But they had no interest. I thought the ghosts in that building were so valuable, but none of the young guys cared. Once in a while, one of the old legends would come in the building, or make a trip. Jack Tatum would be around, and I'd say, 'You know who that dude is? You know how he played?' And the kids would be like, 'Nah, I don't care.'

"The game's different now. Look at Vince Young. Why wouldn't he listen to Kerry Collins? I'm sure Vince thinks, 'Nobody's been through what I'm going through. Nobody's been through my kind of pressure.' Are you kidding me! Kerry Collins, fifth pick in the draft, has all the ups and downs, gets benched, makes those racist comments, has the alcohol problems, moves from team to team, comes back, has success ... Vince Young should suck up all the knowledge Kerry Collins has to offer! There's no better role model for him.''

I have heard that Collins went out of his way last year to try to help Young when the struggling quarterback was having his quasi-breakdown. Young had no interest. Maybe Sapp's on to something. If he is, it's a sad commentary on the kids of the NFL. I remember being in Tampa last year to do a story for SI on Brooks playing Adrian Peterson and the Vikings, and I thought at least one of the young linebackers, Barrett Ruud, tried to siphon off Brooks' knowledge.

"I always wonder during games, 'How Derrick get there so fast?' '' Ruud said. "Then I'd watch the tape, and I'd see he started running to the spot before I would have, because he just knew his keys and he knew the tendencies of the offense better than anybody else.'' But I also heard that while Ruud was a willing listener, the other young 'backers weren't.
Brooks told me he wants to play one more year. His gut feeling is he'll get picked up. His agent, Roosevelt Barnes, told me the same thing Sunday evening. Some teams have sniffed around -- the Saints, most notably -- but no offers have been made.

"I'll tell you how committed I am to play, and playing well,'' said Brooks. "I was hurt most of last year. First time in 14 years I've been hurt, and I played hurt. It affected me, obviously. But I wanted to play well so badly this year that I skipped the Pro Bowl after the season, and the day after our season ended, the day after we lost to Oakland in the last game, at 1 or 2 in the afternoon, I was in the trainers' room doing my rehab work on my hamstring. I didn't want to have any setbacks by playing in the Pro Bowl.''

When new coach Raheem Morris called Brooks Feb. 25 and asked him to come in and see him, Brooks knew he was being let go. He snapped into the phone: "Are you kidding me!'' Since then, he's devoted time to training, and to his young education causes, including seeing his first senior class of 16 students graduate from the Brooks-DeBartolo Collegiate High School. It's the first charter school in the county that contains Tampa, and Brooks swells with pride about the lives he's helped change by giving inner-city kids a chance at a better education. All 16 of his charges will be attending college in the fall.

The fall. That's when Brooks hopes he's playing. Somewhere.

"The reality in this game is we're all going to walk into work one day and be told, 'You're out of a job.' '' he said. "I don't think it's my time yet.''
It's not up to him. For someone who always controlled his own fate with his effort and his play, that's the hardest part.


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4PackGirl
15 years ago
well damn - my solution was the raiders - sapp shot that down though. maybe the lions - they could use some solid leadership experience to dig them outta the pits of hell.

it's a sad commentary on the youth of this country as a whole. this is nothing i haven't heard come out of the mouth of my 18 year old step son. he wasn't raised to have everything handed to him & yet feels this sense of entitlement. i remember what it was like to be 18 but i listened to my parents - they told me what to do - i didn't have any choice. i think that's where we're lacking these days. it's all about respect.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
If Brooks played 3 - 4, I'd be all over it.
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Formo
15 years ago
Doesn't surprise me about the young guys in the NFL. I heard somewhere that they don't need any 'rah rah' stuff, because they know how to motivate themselves... Are you $#&@ing kidding me?!!??! 31 teams need the 'rah rah' stuff, because 31 teams AREN'T World Champions. If they REALLY didn't need that type of stuff, they'd have Super Bowl rings.

Same thing goes with respecting the knowledge of the NFL vets.

Something tells me that for the majority of these young NFL players, it's only about the money.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
As for Brooks in particular. Just sign the guy. If you're a team that's on the edge of greatness and have LB as a weak point, who not take him. I think that he can be an elite player for at least 2 more years. Falcons maybe? They just let Brookings go to the Cowboys.

Anyway, I still think that veteran leadership is something you need. Someone to lead by example. Pretty much like Driver, Harris or Brooks could do. If you go overboard on young players, you get stuff like what happend on our interior line and entire line after Tauscher went out. A lot of penalty's, mistakes, missed assignments very often resulting in holding. If you go overboard on veterans, you'll get this .
zombieslayer
15 years ago
Can we use him?

I bet we could. His tackle stats dropped off big time but that's deceptive because he's been playing more in coverage and actually his coverage stats went up.

As for today's kids, it's easy to hate them, but I actually like them. I see today's kids as self-starters. I'm currently working with a bunch of musicians and can't believe how good they are. Holy smokes are they good. They're definitely better than we were when we were kids.

As for that entitlement mentality, where do you think they learned it from? I'll tell you - the baby boomer generation, biggest spoiled brats who ever existed in this country (and the same mentality that brought down Rome).
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