RaiderPride
16 years ago
One good thing about the Packers coming off a 6-10 season is that Rodgers could benefit from a 11-5 season (Very Possible) after a 6-10 season. The reward would be in MVP Votes.

I think Rodgers has a very serious shot at MVP This Year.

1) His numbers were very good last year in a season where the D did not help him and we lost so many games by so few points. The record kind of held him out of the lime light even though his numbers were very good.

2) It will be his second year under centre, and that means better stats, and better decisions on the field.

3) His WR Corps. They are going to make him look spectacular, even though he is going to be great.

4) Aaron's INT's will be the lowest in the NFL. I believe that. Look at the start he had last year, was it 5 games out of the gate without an INT? More experience equals less than last year, and perhaps a longer streak.

5) The New D means more wins, and perhaps four final drives that will stand up as game winning drives. A key stat in MVP consideration.

I see a PRO BOWL as a lock....

I can see a MVP in his second year as a starter.

And I am not looking through gold and green sun glasses.

RP
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
That would be a spectacular accomplishment indeed. Has anyone in the history of the NFL ever won the MVP in their second year as a starter?
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longtimefan
16 years ago

That would be a spectacular accomplishment indeed. Has anyone in the history of the NFL ever won the MVP in their second year as a starter?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Marino?

Warner in 99,although he was in NFL Europe for a while before that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Most_Valuable_Player_Award 
beast
16 years ago
To be honest I don't think he has a chance at MVP unless two things happen.

1) One great year by him including a good or great team record which is possible.

2) No body else really steps up. I mean last year Manning won... but he didn't really seem to have an MVP year at least to me. I think Drew Brees was the clear MVP in my book but playing with a bad defense and offense that had most of it's starters injured.


But I do agree the 6-10 to better with help the Rodgers hype more than if he was just good to start off with.
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earthquake
16 years ago
Dan Marino was drafted in 1983 and won MVP honors in 1984. A true second year MVP.

Kurt Warner won MVP honors in his first year starting in 1999, after being a backup in 98, and playing in Europe before then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Most_Valuable_Player_Award 

I think saying Rodgers will have an MVP year is stretching it a bit, i do believe he will have a pro-bowl year, and improve overall in 2009. I do not however think he will have much better stats in 2009, but feel the win/loss record will be a lot better because of an overall improved team. But i would love him to prove me wrong on all points =)

[edit] Doh LTF beats me by about 6 minutes 😛
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dhazer
16 years ago
I think the MVP is already decided to be totally honest. The media darling Tom Brady coming back and the Pats make the Super Bowl its a dead lock he is MVP regardless of stats. Just how it goes these days. Its all about the media and Brady has them wrapped around a finger. Just look at the Sports Illustrated cover after the Indy 500, it is usually reserved for the winner of the 500 but this year it was Brady in training camp.

So i don't see Rodgers having a chance.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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The_Green_Ninja
16 years ago

I think the MVP is already decided to be totally honest. The media darling Tom Brady coming back and the Pats make the Super Bowl its a dead lock he is MVP regardless of stats. Just how it goes these days. Its all about the media and Brady has them wrapped around a finger. Just look at the Sports Illustrated cover after the Indy 500, it is usually reserved for the winner of the 500 but this year it was Brady in training camp.

So i don't see Rodgers having a chance.

"dhazer" wrote:



You know the obsession and the media with Northeast teams. Just give Rodger's his Super Bowl ring and it will happen.

I also see pro bowl at 90% possibility.
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dhazer
16 years ago

I think the MVP is already decided to be totally honest. The media darling Tom Brady coming back and the Pats make the Super Bowl its a dead lock he is MVP regardless of stats. Just how it goes these days. Its all about the media and Brady has them wrapped around a finger. Just look at the Sports Illustrated cover after the Indy 500, it is usually reserved for the winner of the 500 but this year it was Brady in training camp.

So i don't see Rodgers having a chance.

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:



You know the obsession and the media with Northeast teams. Just give Rodger's his Super Bowl ring and it will happen.

I also see pro bowl at 90% possibility.

"dhazer" wrote:



I wasn't trying to make it sound like a cut on Rodgers, I can see him in Hawaii with his stats. But an MVP i don't see.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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dfosterf
16 years ago

I think the MVP is already decided to be totally honest. The media darling Tom Brady coming back and the Pats make the Super Bowl its a dead lock he is MVP regardless of stats. Just how it goes these days. Its all about the media and Brady has them wrapped around a finger. Just look at the Sports Illustrated cover after the Indy 500, it is usually reserved for the winner of the 500 but this year it was Brady in training camp.

So i don't see Rodgers having a chance.

"dhazer" wrote:



He might, haze.

The whole "following a legend" aspect makes him quite likable to the media. If we had done something last year, record-wise, Aaron would be far more of a media darling than he is now. The kid is made for TV and interviews, he brings the correct amount of humility to the table, etc. He interviews well, in other words.

I would say you are right about Tom Brady right now- Coming off the injury, etc.

It is going to be all about respective team accomplishments, instead of individual ones, if it is "close" in the individual accomplishment department.

imo

Edit-- And IF we were to improve dramatically this year as a team, that 6-10 would HELP his chances, not hurt them, probably. I think the national perspective is that Rodgers was part of the solution, not part of the problem...last year. He will have a very sympathetic audience if things turn around for the Pack as a whole.
longtimefan
16 years ago

I think the MVP is already decided to be totally honest. The media darling Tom Brady coming back and the Pats make the Super Bowl its a dead lock he is MVP regardless of stats. Just how it goes these days. Its all about the media and Brady has them wrapped around a finger. Just look at the Sports Illustrated cover after the Indy 500, it is usually reserved for the winner of the 500 but this year it was Brady in training camp.

So i don't see Rodgers having a chance.

"dhazer" wrote:



You know the obsession and the media with Northeast teams. Just give Rodger's his Super Bowl ring and it will happen.

I also see pro bowl at 90% possibility.

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:



I wasn't trying to make it sound like a cut on Rodgers, I can see him in Hawaii with his stats. But an MVP i don't see.

"dhazer" wrote:



I dont think anyone will interrupt your post as hatred for Rodgers
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