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a month ago

The answer to the question: They sort of do, sort of don’t.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported  that “outside team interest is likely to increase” for Pittsburgh Steelers  pass-rusher and Wisconsin native T.J. Watt following the Steelers’ trade for defensive back Jalen Ramsey and tight end Jonnu Smith. As we’ve talked about before, the Steelers have paid the least amount of cash of any team for players since the pandemic season  and Watt has an ongoing holdout with the team, as he’s looking for a new contract.


At the moment, Watt has a $21.05 million base salary for 2025, which would be transferred to a team that would potentially trade for the six-time All-Pro.


Can the Green Bay Packers  pay that right now? Sort of.


At the moment, the Packers have $35.5 million in available cap space, according to Over the Cap . With that in mind, remember that offseason cap accounting is different than in-season cap accounting.


In the offseason, only the top 51 cap hits on the roster count against the cap. In the regular season, this number includes not only the full 53-man roster but also the practice squad (which ends up costing the team about a combined $4 million over the full year), injury settlements and players on the injured reserve. At the moment, the minimum salary is $840,000 for an undrafted rookie player. That number goes up to $1,255,000, depending on how many years of service an NFL player has.


So, can Green Bay make this trade? Well, technically yes. It would be an insanely tight squeeze, even if their cap space on paper is $35.5 million, because of the difference between in-season and offseason accounting. For every player who ends up on injured reserve before the season, for example, it will cost the Packers an extra player at a 53-man roster price, a minimum cost of $840,000. Once you factor in in-season injuries, that $35.5 million doesn’t look like a treasure chest of cap space.


Green Bay would have a little more cap space to play around with this year if they didn’t structure the release of cornerback Jaire Alexander the way they did. Essentially, the Packers worked with Alexander to sign a one-year contract that pushed all of the dead cap in Alexander’s deal to fall on the 2025 cap, rather than split it over the next two seasons. So, instead of having Alexander count $7.5 million against the cap as a post-June 1st release in 2025, he now costs $17 million versus the Packers’ books.


Ultimately, whatever Green Bay doesn’t use cap-wise in 2025 will be rolled over into 2026 anyway, so this cap space issue doesn’t matter UNLESS the team wants to make a big move ahead of the 2025 season. If you wanted Watt in green and gold, though, I’m sure you have thoughts about the decision the Packers made with how they parted ways with Alexander.




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Justis Mosqueda wrote:




The question isn't do they have cap space. The Packers have shown time and time again that they can make room if they need to. All they have to do is move money from a player's around and add a couple of void years.

The real question is at 31 do they WANT to pick up Watt and pay him more for the next 3-4 maybe 5 years?
Watt is a stud. He is an aging stud. While his numbers are way above league average Watt has shown a decrease in productivity over the past few years. If they traded for him Watt would get a positional top $21 million this year but he's gonna want a lot more next year and the following years as well. I have no idea what his agent is asking for but it would have to be a min of $25 million. I wouldn't be shocked if he really is looking for nearly $30 million. Let him play out this year and pick up the contract talk for next year. Trading a player or most likely a #1 pick would be bad enough to have to break the bank as well is needless.









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a month ago
I was thinking the guy is awfully injury prone.

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dfosterf
a month ago

The question isn't do they have cap space. The Packers have shown time and time again that they can make room if they need to. All they have to do is move money from a player's around and add a couple of void years.

The real question is at 31 do they WANT to pick up Watt and pay him more for the next 3-4 maybe 5 years?
Watt is a stud. He is an aging stud. While his numbers are way above league average Watt has shown a decrease in productivity over the past few years. If they traded for him Watt would get a positional top $21 million this year but he's gonna want a lot more next year and the following years as well. I have no idea what his agent is asking for but it would have to be a min of $25 million. I wouldn't be shocked if he really is looking for nearly $30 million. Let him play out this year and pick up the contract talk for next year. Trading a player or most likely a #1 pick would be bad enough to have to break the bank as well is needless.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



What he is asking for according to multiple sources is to be paid more than Myles Garrett of the Browns. That would make him the highest paid non qb in the league. Since Myles' contract is fresh this year, it"s pretty easy to figure out what a TJ Watt contract would look like. Not to bore anyone, but basically manageble cap-wise until through 2028, but obscene after that with major dead money risks, factoring in the huge bonuses and guaranteed money. 5 year problem for a 31 year old player, and when I looked at it as a possibie move, the only way it became remotely viable would be to trade Elgton Jenkins for him. I suspect that wouldn't be enough for the Steelers. and it's too much for me.
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