I don't trust any HC solely based on their words solely. Nor did I say that. I'm saying Jordan Love was closer to playing than most are willing to accept. I said it after the game, and shortly after that I would not be surprised if he played.
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool
You are making me work by separating all this out. Go back to working on your basement.
Zero sez:
I don't think LaFleur was pulling the chain of anyone. Even Elgton Jenkins said they didn't know who was going to start and it didn't matter. Perhaps I misunderstood you but this comments feels as if you are saying MLF did not and would not misdirect the fans. I think he carefully and cleverly choose his words to be sufficiently vague. It leaves him with a plausible deniable defense should the higher powers at NFL Inc called him to the carpet. In truth I do not believe there was a chance for Love to play last Sunday. Not only would he have to be released by the medical staff, she should have had at least the minimal walkthrough practice wit the team. Matt also said he could play without any practice of any kind whatsoever. (My words) yet that is not Matt's typical approach to injuries. Remember all the times Bak was "day to day" but he was still on dressing on game days?
My comment was that the team did not know. Jenkins can make his comment without reproach because he was not a part of the very small group of people that were in the know.
My sound and flawless reasoning was he was walking without much limp the day after. Doesn't mean a TON. But the game plan we saw Sunday is what I expected for Jordan Love. So, I guess you could say I'm bias in believing the coach and players saying there was one game plan that would suffice for either QB because it's what I would have done.
Zero wrote:
Walking in a straight line on a flat surface is a very good start. That is not football ready shape. Obviously you never said it was so R-E-L-A-X. He still has a ways to go before he will be released to play.
Yes the game plan was a dual purpose plan for both QBs. Still that doesn't mean Matt expected Jordan to be ready to play.
As I said, believe the coach if you want. I think he was shoveling SH@T. I mean lefts face it, if Jordan walking into Matt's office on Saturday and did cartwheels and backflips to show he was totally and completely healthy Matt would have started him. Thing is, Matt knew this wasn't going to happen. Believing the players is fine. They were in the dark too.
I used to be bias and have more faith in the words matt says regarding the status of an injury. But in 5 years he was always over promised and under performed. Always.
LaFleur saying Love was "day to day" I'd say was gamesmanship. I think it came down to how he felt Saturday or Sunday in his ability to execute the game plan. LaFleur said Love has to be medically cleared and be able to protect himself. I believe those words to be true.
Zero wrote:
Jordan is day to day because he is not on the IL. By NFL rules definition that is day to day. (Don't bother to look at all the rules, I am being dramatic, although only slightly.)
Technically Sunday would have been too late since the called up Clifford on Saturday.
Your last comment is correct. But it also shows MLF speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Or yet another way he can defend himself with the NFL.
All this points to my original comment, Rob Demovsky doesn't know how to vet a comment by the coach or he is intent on making suspect comments for the sake of clicks.
If Love returns after 3 weeks that will be fantastic. Implying he would not miss any time was reckless on Demovsky's part. I would be very happy if Love returns this week but I still think he will be on the sidelines again.
Oh by the way, my daughter in law is an orthopedic PA. She deals with injuries like this every day. Just looking at the tv footage, she said it looked like it was going take 3-5 weeks for Jordan to return. That was when some were saying 6+ weeks or season ending ACL.
What has not been said is this injury will probably not fully heal all season long. He may be able to get out there an play but it's going to bother him for a long time.