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a month ago

Kraft played significantly more than Luke Musgrave in Week 1 versus the Philadelphia Eagles.

Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft are forever going to be linked together, as the Green Bay Packers  selected both of those tight ends on the second day of the 2023 NFL Draft . Last season, Musgrave, who was drafted in the second round, got the early nod over Kraft, who was drafted in the third round, up until Musgrave’s kidney laceration left him sidelined from Week 12 through Week 17 of the regular season — at which point he returned on a pitch count.


Truthfully, we hadn’t seen how the Packers were going to use the healthy tight end duo in the post-Kraft breakout world, as there simply wasn’t a data point for that in their rookie seasons. In Week 1 of the regular season this year, though, Green Bay’s offense surprised most by playing Kraft (64 offensive snaps ) significantly more than Musgrave (17 snaps) versus the Philadelphia Eagles .


For reference, Musgrave had taken most of the first-team reps with the starting offense throughout the summer, in part because Kraft missed a big chunk of the offseason due to a pec injury. While many fans argued that Kraft outperformed Musgrave last season, the Packers didn’t give any indication that they were actually leaning toward Kraft being their top tight end going into the 2024 season.


In the first three quarters versus the Eagles, Kraft received at least twice as many offensive snaps per quarter as Musgrave. In the fourth quarter, those numbers widened, as Kraft played 13 snaps to Musgrave’s 0. In fact, Musgrave played just one offensive snap after quarterback Jordan Love threw an interception on a play that Musgrave was targeted on with 6:15 left in the third quarter. Meanwhile, Kraft played another 21 offensive snaps to end the game. In the second half, Kraft played 31 offensive snaps to Musgrave’s 5.


Former Packers backup quarterback Kurt Benkert, turned content creator, took to Twitter to give his opinion on the Love interception. According to him, Musgrave was supposed to flatten out against man coverage to keep the free safety, who made the interception, out of range from making a play on the ball.






This is really bad by Musgrave

You have to cross face of the safety and flatten vs 1 high like that

Love trusted him ‍♂️




— Kurt Benkert (@KurtBenkert) September 7, 2024 













33B the Inside post should be running an inside post, not looking back the entire way while running his route. Jordan is throwing to the spot with anticipation and if the TE just runs the route correctly it’s a completion or incomplete. No threat of pick if he does his job.
— Kurt Benkert (@KurtBenkert) September 7, 2024 









Maybe that play was a bit of a turning point for the Packers’ coaching staff on the Kraft vs. Musgrave debate. What can’t be disputed, though, is that Green Bay seems a lot more focused on featuring Kraft as a down-to-down player right now than Musgrave.




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a month ago
I kind of viewed them as TE1a, TE1b. I wonder if we'll see this lopsided snap count dictated by matchups? For example, if a team has good front seven, they use the better blocking TE more often.

As for that clip ...

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beast
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a month ago
These QBs know more than I ever will. But if it wasn't Musgrave's fault, then it's interesting he didn't play a single offensive snap for the rest of the game.

I can see it from both sides here, in that Love was expecting Musgrave to get to the other side of the dropping LB, and Musgrave thought it was hot, so he was trying to stay open on that side of the dropping LB.

But to Warner's point, if Musgrave was wrong, and it was not hot, then in theory Love could have held onto the ball longer and hit a different option, as it looks like someone ran a quick route to the left. And the crosser behind Musgrave was about to be wide open.
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a month ago
The coaches know more than the QBs and the lack of reps gives you the answer...perhaps our press corp should inquire.

Kraft is a much better blocker who can also receive, therefore, a much more valuable tight end.
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a month ago

Kraft is a much better blocker who can also receive, therefore, a much more valuable tight end.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


Which is why Travis Kelce is one of the least valuable TEs right? 😉 Because he can't block.
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a month ago

Which is why Travis Kelce is one of the least valuable TEs right? 😉 Because he can't block.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Me and 3/4 of the GM would take Kittle without hesitation over Kelce

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a month ago


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


And it continues...





I loved this last one.
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24 days ago
Felt like it was overhype week one talk. After two weeks into it. Kraft gotta be TE1


Edit, whoa typo ville.
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24 days ago

Felt like it was overhype week oke talk. Gotta Asta two weeks into it. Kraft gotta be TE1

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




I have not tracked it but I think he is getting more snaps. Musgrave fell behind last year when he was injured and never caught up. That's the same time that it started to click for Kraft.
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24 days ago
Kraft is simply a much better blocker which is essential in MLFs offense. he is capable of performing the wham and crackback blocks which Musgrave is not... at least not at this point in his career
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