beast
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8 months ago
Nothing too telling, other than maybe at W$, where Wicks might be the clear #4, and DeBose might be competing for the #6 spot.

Also some interesting comments on the OL, but knowing the Packers, they're keeping most of their rookie draft picks and I don't think all of those RTs are gonna make it.

“Where is Dontayvion Wicks,” is a question Green Bay fans should be asking themselves after the practice.

Last season, we documented the snap counts that Green Bay Packers players recorded throughout the summer in Family Night and the preseason . Ultimately, it helped us build out a pretty accurate depth chart and 53-man roster projection going into Week 1 of the season.


With Family Night now behind us, it’s time to go on another journey of disgusting summer charting that only true sickos will enjoy. You’re welcome.


If you were unable to watch Family Night on Saturday, or you simply missed the rotations as they happened live, we have you covered. Below are the position-by-position snap counts that the first-team units took on broadcast “team period” snaps during the practice — our first real data point of the summer.


We’ll detail the rotations that the team played at individual units and also note if any significant players were missing from practice. Just one week away from the Packers ’ preseason opener against the Cleveland Browns , here’s what your team looks like.


Quarterback



Jordan Love: 26 snaps



Enough said about this one.


Running Back




AJ Dillon: 21


MarShawn Lloyd: 5




Josh Jacobs was at practice today, but he only participated in warmups while dealing with a groin injury. Despite Jacobs’ absence, Lloyd only received five of the team’s first-team snaps, as he got most of his work with Sean Clifford and the second-team offense on Saturday. Lloyd previously missed a chunk of training camp with a hip injury, but it seems like no matter the health status of the backfield, he’s firmly the third back going into the 2024 preseason.


Receiver




Romeo Doubs: 21


Christian Watson: 19


Jayden Reed: 16


Dontayvion Wicks: 6


Bo Melton: 5


Grant DuBose: 2




The biggest surprise here, by far, is that receiver Dontayvion Wicks, who caught on in the second half of the 2023 season, only got six reps with Jordan Love on Family Night. Previous reports from training camp claimed that he’s been on a four-man rotation with Romeo Doubs, Christian Watson and Jayden Reed, but the televised snap count from Saturday puts him closer to the Bo Melton and Grant DuBose cluster of receivers. It’s also worth noting here that DuBose, a former Packers draft pick who missed much of last summer with a back injury, got the nod over Malik Heath, a special teams playing receiver who made Green Bay’s 53-man roster last season as an undrafted rookie, and Samori Toure, a 2022 seventh-round pick.


Tight End




Luke Musgrave: 20


Ben Sims: 8


Tyler Davis: 7




With Tucker Kraft dealing with a pec injury, it’s not a surprise that the Packers were rotating tight ends in and out of the lineup on Family Night. Most of Sims and Davis’ reps came together, one way Green Bay likes to use their backup tight ends. Both Sims and Davis were contributors to the team’s field goal/PAT protection units, too, and Davis was a backfield blocker on the punt protection team. With the way the Packers like to use tight ends on special teams and rotate them heavily on offense, don’t be surprised at all if general manager Brian Gutekunst elects to keep four players at the position at cutdowns.


Offensive Line




Rasheed Walker: 26 (left tackle)


Jordan Morgan: 26 (right guard)


Elgton Jenkins: 22 (left guard)


Josh Myers: 22 (center)


Andre Dillard: 12 (right tackle)


Kadeem Telfort: 8 (right tackle)


Sean Rhyan: 8 (4 each at left guard and center)


Caleb Jones: 6 (right tackle)




Outside of Sean Rhyan sneaking in some center and left guard reps, the only position that really rotated heavily on the offense line tonight was right tackle, where Andre Dillard, Kadeem Telfort and Caleb Jones all had their opportunities. As a reminder, this was with Zach Tom, the presumed right tackle starter, still rehabbing his pec injury. Tom has been participating in walkthroughs and individual drills up to this point, but head coach Matt LaFleur said on the broadcast today that he’s not expected to return to team drills until next week. Notable offensive linemen on the outside looking in are fifth-round rookie Jacob Monk, sixth-round rookie Travis Glover, former starter Royce Newman and Luke Tenuta, a former draft pick who the Packers picked up off of waivers two years ago. Assuming that Green Bay rosters 10 offensive linemen, Tom plus the nine offensive linemen who got looks with the first-team offense on Family Night leaves one roster spot for that group of players to fight over.


Defensive End




Rashan Gary: 23


Preston Smith: 23


Lukas Van Ness: 3


Brenton Cox Jr.: 3




Kingsley Enagbare missed the practice today due to a hamstring injury. Had he been on the field, it’s expected that he would have received Brenton Cox Jr.’s snaps. This unit didn’t rotate much, which probably isn’t much of a surprise now that Preston Smith has incentives in his contract that will pay him per sack — therefore he’s not going to want to give up reps. The only interesting thing here is that Cox still has a hold over the fifth defensive end spot, though, defensive end Keshawn Banks, who was activated for a playoff game over Cox, was missing from practice with a groin injury.


Defensive Tackle




Kenny Clark: 22


T.J. Slaton: 15


Devonte Wyatt: 12


Karl Brooks: 3




It may have seemed like a lock that Devonte Wyatt would be a starter by Year 3 of his first-round pick career, but that is simply not the case. Right now, T.J. Slaton is getting just as much burn as him, if not more. Slaton has consistently been getting “starts” with the first-team defense throughout training camp. The fourth man in the pecking order right now is Karl Brooks, but 2023 fourth-round pick Colby Wooden didn’t get a single snap with the first-team defense.


Linebacker




Quay Walker: 26


Isaiah McDuffie: 26


Eric Wilson: 9




Edgerrin Cooper, who has been receiving reps as a nickel linebacker, was missing from practice today with a groin injury. You might want to take these snap counts as a grain of salt, but Quay Walker was the starting Mike linebacker today with Isaiah McDuffie also never leaving the field. Eric Wilson, a special teams contributor, was on the field as an extra outside linebacker when the defense played their base 4-3 defense. Rookie third-round pick Ty’Ron Hopper didn’t get a single snap with the first-team defense on Family Night.


Cornerback




Jaire Alexander: 22


Eric Stokes: 21


Keisean Nixon: 7


Corey Ballentine: 1


Robert Rochell; 1




No, these aren’t counting nickelback snaps, which we’ll get into later. Yes, Keisean Nixon is playing some outside cornerback this year. Carrington Valentine is dealing with a hamstring that kept him off the field on Saturday, but Alexander, Stokes, Valentine and Nixon are expected to be the team’s top options at outside cornerback going into 2024. Even if Valentine was healthy, it doesn’t seem like the team is willing to let him push Stokes for the starting job. Stokes has consistently started with the first-team defense throughout training camp. The most notable data point here, though, might be that rookie seventh-round pick Kalen King, who received some first-team reps for the Packers in previous practices, didn’t get a single snap with the first-team defense today.


Safety




Xavier McKinney: 21


Evan Williams: 14


Javon Bullard: 12


Anthony Johnson Jr.: 5




The most competitive training camp battle in Green Bay right now is at the safety position, as it’s a three-man race for the starting job next to free-agent addition Xavier McKinney. Evan Williams, the fourth-round rookie, got the most snaps at safety today, but Javon Bullard, who also got six nickelback snaps, received the most total defensive snaps with the first-team defense at the position outside of McKinney. While Anthony Johnson Jr. has had his days as a “starter” with the defense this summer, today he was the fourth man in the pecking order.


Nickelback




Keisean Nixon: 11


Javon Bullard: 6




The way the Packers used the nickel position today was very interesting. Nixon was the primary slot cornerback whenever Jaire Alexander and Eric Stokes were on the field at outside cornerback. Safety Javon Bullard only received nickelback snaps when Nixon was playing outside cornerback for a drive, which would probably warrant a couple of injuries at the position for the team to deploy in a real game. Again, it’s worth stressing that Kalen King didn’t get snaps in the slot, which is where he seems to be playing the most as of lately.




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8 months ago
Thanks for the snap counts. It's difficult to see who played where.

Early in training camp MLF made a comment about not reading to much into what the coaches are doing with the players on the OL. I think it is a valid comment for every position one way or another.
Fans love to see the camp battles. Why not? We have so little else to do at this time.
At least 90% of the roster is already set. A few minor tweaks perhaps bumping a #2 into to starting role.
Whatever the first 53 roster is, one thing is for sure, it will change. More than likely before they board the plane to São Paulo. Actually the trip is so long, I wouldn't be surprised if Gute makes a change mid flight. ;)

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