Safe to Say Packers Will Be Better on Defense

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 months ago

Somewhere in Miami, Joe Barry must be envious of the talent at safety that’s been handed to new Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley.

GREEN BAY, Wis. – Never mind, for a moment, the merits of Joe Barry as defensive coordinator. Or the pros and cons of switching to a 4-3 base defense.

There is one obvious reason why the Green Bay Packers will be better on defense in 2024.

In 2023, after general manager Brian Gutekunst made a minimal investment at safety, Darnell Savage, Jonathan Owens and Rudy Ford combined to play about 2,000 snaps. Owens started the final 11 games and broke up three passes. Savage started 10 games and broke up one pass. Moreover, Savage and rookie Anthony Johnson, who played about 300 snaps as a seventh-round pick, ranked among the worst-tackling safeties in the league.

Gutekunst didn’t make the same mistake this year.

Step 1 was signing Xavier McKinney to a four-year, $67 million contract in free agency. By total value and annual value, McKinney is the fourth-highest-paid safety in the NFL.

For good reason.

Continue Reading @ Sports Illustrated

Sports Illustrated wrote:

A better defense means deeper playoff run.

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beast
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7 months ago

I'm not so sure it's safe to say that...

10th best in points scored against at 20.6 per game. And a lot more rookies playing in a brand new system.

Mucky Tundra
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7 months ago

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Never liked the Barry hire but he suckered me in after his first season ("well that wasn't terrible like I thought it would be"). Hearing from Hafley so far has me excited. I'm ready to be hurt again

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bboystyle
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7 months ago

I mean tbf, our defense played well and we made a nice playoff run at the end. Inexperience killed us more so than bad defense.

wpr
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7 months ago

Year after year we've heard that the Packer's defense was going to be better than last year. "Look at all those first round draft picks" was repeated over and over again. I think this year it will finally come true.

Zero2Cool
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7 months ago

lol anyone even read the article or just respond to the topic ??

beast
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7 months ago

lol anyone even read the article or just respond to the topic ??

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Why does that matter? I actually read it, but you can basically assume what it says based on it being the off-season and the headline.

To super over summarize
~ The guys we lost, sucked!
~ The guys we added, rule!
~ Ergo, we will be better!

Martha Careful
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7 months ago

lol anyone even read the article or just respond to the topic ??

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I read it as well. Beasts summary is largely correct.

Nevertheless, I can't remember the timeline, but was Hadley hired before we signed McKinney and bid adieu to Savage?

If so, that might indicate to me that his acceptance of the job may have been provisional, i.e. "yea I would love the job, but don't expect much unless we have some real safeties as your guys stink."

Another theory might be if our guys were so bad, perhaps our deployment and schemes were appropriate and Barry may have overachieved relative to the talent with which he had to work.

Go Packers!!!!

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

7 months ago

lol anyone even read the article or just respond to the topic ??

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I did in fact read before responding. 🤷‍♂️

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 months ago

#10

Originally Posted by: beast

Why does it matter? Because I found it humorous that the replies largely could be conjectured from the title, not the specifics in the article. I wasn't gonna raise membership fees or something, geez.

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