beast
a year ago

So the new defensive coordinator VJ, Vernon Joseph had to step in to get them to play more aggressive and tackle!!

Note he did not say 'Christian Parker improved our defensive backs by getting them to play the ball and be less passive. This write up could be interpreted that Parker was part of the problem.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I agree with what you're saying about what was actually written, but I believe (totally guessing) the writer's poorly written point was that they started with the old scheme, and then later added the new coordinates new changes or adjustments to that old scheme.

Because while it was the coordinators changes, it's still the DB coaches job to coach the DBs and the coordinator is calling him the star. So maybe it was the Coordinator idea, but he taught the new coaches the old scheme, and the old players, the new changes.


Basically taking a conservative Fangio scheme and turning into an aggressive Vic Fangio scheme, which might be exactly what LaFleur is looking for.



UserPostedImage
a year ago

I agree with what you're saying about what was actually written, but I believe (totally guessing) the writer's poorly written point was that they started with the old scheme, and then later added the new coordinates new changes or adjustments to that old scheme.

Because while it was the coordinators changes, it's still the DB coaches job to coach the DBs and the coordinator is calling him the star. So maybe it was the Coordinator idea, but he taught the new coaches the old scheme, and the old players, the new changes.

Basically taking a conservative Fangio scheme and turning into an aggressive Vic Fangio scheme, which might be exactly what LaFleur is looking for.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Perhaps....and perhaps he was simply executing the desires of the old boss.

Nevertheless, better tackling and more aggressiveness when the ball is in the air should not be predicated on a DC.

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Zero2Cool
a year ago

How about if we get a star instead of a rising star.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 

I think I missed it, who is on your list of "star" DC candidates the Packers can/should get?

Nevertheless, better tackling and more aggressiveness when the ball is in the air should not be predicated on a DC.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 

If better tackling / play ball in air aggressively shouldn't be predicated on the DC, who should it be predicated on?




UserPostedImage
a year ago
MC added the numbers for counterpoint clarity

1. I think I missed it, who is on your list of "star" DC candidates the Packers can/should get?

2. If better tackling / play ball in air aggressively shouldn't be predicated on the DC, who should it be predicated on?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Zero is picking on old Marty today...ok, then, I will break out the MC Hammer 😊😊😊
1. Wink Martindale, Vic Fangio (missed it, PA bound for family reasons) Bill Belichick, Jim Leonhard (oops sorry, I was not supposed to mention his name)
2. Position coaches. The DC should only have to step in when the position coaches are not getting the job. done.

Sorry it took so long to respond, I was updating my FTP Scripts to increase security.


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