Is it time for the Packers to trade Yosh Nijman?· Page 2

nerdmann
Premier Member

a year ago

Trade Nijman at the trade deadline. Right now teams are waiting to get guys free on cut-down day.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

a year ago

#12

Wow...who has been drinking their asshole juice this morning.

I recognize one can do all the things that you claim...but it would make no fucking sense and everyone in the world sees that...but apparently you.

YOU are posting YOUR opinion of the situation the same as I am...and acting like a complete douche in the process.

We are undergoing a youth movement with a need to correct our salary cap an not push any can down the road.

Whatever Gute does will be what happens, but like not moving Aaron earlier I PERSONALLY feel it'll be a day late and dollar short. Everyone plays GM for their team. We'll see when the season is over what shakes out.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

I think he's going thru some shit.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

a year ago

#13

I have learned ever since Josh Sitton was released at last cut not to be surprised at anything.

Up until a couple of years ago, I would start right after the draft and work on my final 53, it should be a fun little project, but I found myself getting way to invested in "why" and "what the hell" when moves were made that I didn't agree with.
Much more relaxing to just put out a 53 man roster after the draft and see how it looks after final cuts.

No matter what anyone thinks, Gute is the guy who will put together THE TEAM, pass it on to Matt and he and his coaches deal with the cards that are given them.

I look around the league and see a lot of teams already cutting players.

The fact that Gute has said he is going to wait till Tuesday to do final cuts, tells me he has some tough decisions to make.
That's not a bad thing.

Just because Nijman didn't win the starting RT job doesn't mean he got worse, could mean that Thom and Walker made that 2nd year jump and got that much better.

Again, not a bad thing.

I no longer worry about The Salary Cap, in today's NFL, there are 100 ways to manipulate it.
The Packers have one of the best in Ball to do just that.
The Packers have a first year starter at qb, THE #1 PRIORITY is to keep him protected.
I have confidence that Gute will make the right decisions.
Everybody has their own opinions, we are not going to agree all the time.
No sense in attacking each other.
Kumbaya everyone!

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earthquake
Member

a year ago

#14

Trade Nijman at the trade deadline. Right now teams are waiting to get guys free on cut-down day.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Yeah, I think there will be guys like Nijman (or slightly worse) available after cuts, so he probably doesn't have much trade value. I guess his value to the Packers is higher than what he's worth. But if they can get a 4th or better for him, why not? Waiting until the trade deadline makes sense too - injuries on the oline always seem to happen so they could wait and see how the season shakes out.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he's cut outright. They can carry his ~$4m contract, but if he's fallen to #4 or #5 at T, that's a pretty high cost to pay for a guy who probably isn't playing much, if at all, this season. I think it really depends on their confidence in Bahktari's knee - if they don't have faith in David remaining healthy, Nijman could quickly be the #3 again.

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beast
Select Member

a year ago

#15

Could Nijman be released due to Cap Reasons?

This isn't my idea, but just saw something online suggesting it's possible.

IF OT Walker has indeed passed OT Nijman on the depth chart to become the #3 OT, like some have suggested... would the Packers still be willing to pay Nijman's $4.3 million for a #4 OT?

I think it's an interesting question. Someone else would cost about a million to fill the spot, so it'd save $3.3 million. But a team might be willing to do it to save that, especially if that can trade him and get something in value back. But they might do it just to save the money if they don't think Nijman is headed in the right direction.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

#16

If everyone knows you are releasing someone, then they aren't worth shit, and you wouldn't be looking forward to what you could get for him.

Originally Posted by: beast

If everyone knows you are releasing someone, generally that's when we see the conditional 7th round picks being thrown around. And it's done to ensure they get the player. If all 31 teams know a player is gonna be released, you're not really wanting to risk letting the player/agent decide the landing spot. Granted, if the player is being released, you're not really pining hard for the guy. Hence the conditional 7th picks being tossed around.

"Leaking" a player is going to be released is actually a strategy some teams use in hopes someone will toss in a draft pick, even if it's a 7th rounder.

beast
Select Member

a year ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I thought we were trying to drop that part of the discussion, because I was being too much of an asshole for others?

But since you brought it back up, and back to the context of Bakhtiari, which was the context of what you quoted, are you suggesting he's looking forward for the Packers to trade Bakhtiari for a 7th round pick in 2023? Because supposedly (his claim) that everyone knows we're going to release Bakhtiari in the 2024 off-season.

PS: I agree with what you said, just not to he context of the Bakhtiari situation. I extremely believe if they knew they would be releasing Bakhtiari before the 2024 season, they would of drafted an OT very high in in 2023 draft to get one year under development before losing Bakhtiari.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

#18

Originally Posted by: beast

I didn't mention a specific player so not really sure you did so while quoting me. I was just addressing the part of which I quoted. No reason to extrapolate it into something else.

beast
Select Member

a year ago

#19

I didn't mention a specific player so not really sure you did so while quoting me. I was just addressing the part of which I quoted. No reason to extrapolate it into something else.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

You are King of telling us to "Keep it in Context of the Subject"... and when I keep it in the context of the subject, somehow I'm the one extrapolate?

Extrapolate is taking something to an unknown context, but in this situation, the context of Bakhtiari was clearly there in the message you only partly quoted.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

a year ago

#20

Originally Posted by: beast

The subject is about trading Yosh Nijman, yes? That's what I read the title to be anyhow. Yet, you went off on some tantrum about David Bakhtiari for a 7th round pick. I really have no idea what is going on here. Regarding the individual this subject is titled about, I wouldn't be surprised if Yosh Nijman is cut, nor would I be surprised if he's traded for a day three pick. Although, I would probably be more surprised about the trade than being cut. I think it was the 2020 playoffs that they tinkered with the OL and the person shuffled out was Yosh. So, I think that kind of tells us a little bit about their confidence in him. At least, a few years ago. Confidence can grow over time.

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