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Zero2Cool
a year ago
Haha, I'm kidding. It's just someone having some fun.  I really do like the half stadium open concept though. But I think I like the third one the most.


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beast
a year ago
I know one Packers fan that goes games each year, is demanding a dome more and more as he gets older and can't stand the cold as much... and suggesting regulars don't go to cold games as much, instead selling their tickets which allow more other teams fans to buy tickets for the cold weather games.


I like the highlights of the second one, though that probably just adds a costly electricity bill more than helps sell anything though. But highlight the building with green and gold lights.


As far as best investments (#1 only gets considered if it can be a dome and bring in more money)... but #3 would probably be the best investment.


#4 looks unique and looks cool (and if it's the south side could help with grass growing), but I would think that would cost the team seat revenue, and whom side is that? Seems like you'd need extra security to make sure fans don't rush the field or players.


I did get to see St. Louis Cardinals newer baseball field where there took down a section so fans can see int the stadium (from buildings and restaurants that the Cardinals own), so they can give a 5 star restaurant feel while you can see into stadium directly or watch on TV. (Also, in the bar area they have a freaking massive TV that you can see every single freaking detail which is absolutely amazing)

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a year ago
As some of you know I have the gold package season tickets. That means 3 games a year. #2 and #5 home games. Typically Sept and around Veterans Day in November.

My wife doesn't like to go to the November game because of the cold. She has but we are always bundled up. Until the past few years, I have taken my son. It has worked out well because he is a Vet and I appreciate the nod to men and women of the armed services.

As I look at the mock ups of the stadiums I see one glaring thing missing. The high priced stadium clubs. NFL teams split ticket revenue. One of the main reasons so many teams clamor for more club seating is they only share the nominal ticket price. All the luxury add on charges are kept by the home team. It's not a small matter. Teams have left cities St Louis and Oakland for example for greener pastures is because the new stadiums have a ton of luxury boxes. Other teams have ripped down perfectly good stadiums in Seattle or Detroit for example (The Kingdome was 34 years old. The Silverdome was 38 years old.) 

Of the 4 choices here, I like #1 the best. It's the best option to keep the crowd noise inside and give the Packers a competitive advantage while still having the cold weather.

It's probably me but other than some lighting I don't see the difference between the current stadium and this one.

The 3rd one is fine but nothing special. They would have to move one of the video boards to the far end of the field so all the fans can see. Believe it or not I don't look at the video board behind me during the game. It's too high. It's too hard to turn around and look up that high. Maybe if I was younger but not now. Before the last remodeling project I would look at that board after every play to watch the replays. One older guy who had been a season ticket holder since 1960 always grumbled, "Why is everyone turning around?" His adult kids explained it to him. He grumbled some more, "In my day we didn't have fancy stuff like video boards. They're a waste of money." The new seats are almost a vertical wall. The Packers call it a "Wall of Sound". 

The 4th one, no disrespect to you beast, is idiotic. I've been to St Louis ball park. I like the open view they have.  They dropped the number of seats in their new stadium for a reason. Money. Why pay to have empty seats game after game? It's difficult to sell out a large stadium for 80 baseball games. Old Busch had almost 58,000 seats when it opened.  They culled it down to a little less than 50,000 when it closed. The new one started with less than 44,000. They bumped it up to 45,500. (I bet some of those extra seats are premium seats.) Football doesn't have that problem. There are only 8 or 9 regular season games.The Packers have a waiting list as big as the current stadium has seating. There are between 80,000 and 140,000 people on the waiting list. Every one of them will want a minimum of two tickets. That's enough for 3 more Lambeau Fields. For the Packers to remove an entire section of seats the length of one of the sidelines doesn't make sense. IF they were to do something like that it would be like Busch Stadium it would be in the corner of the end zone. In St Louis it's in the corner of left field. As you mentioned there are hotels and restaurants over there. In Green Bay, nothing remotely equivalent at this time.













 
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beast
a year ago


The 4th one, no disrespect to you beast, is idiotic. I've been to St Louis ball park. I like the open view they have.  They dropped the number of seats in their new stadium for a reason. Money. Why pay to have empty seats game after game? It's difficult to sell out a large stadium for 80 baseball games. Old Busch had almost 58,000 seats when it opened.  They culled it down to a little less than 50,000 when it closed. The new one started with less than 44,000. They bumped it up to 45,500. (I bet some of those extra seats are premium seats.) Football doesn't have that problem. There are only 8 or 9 regular season games.The Packers have a waiting list as big as the current stadium has seating. There are between 80,000 and 140,000 people on the waiting list. Every one of them will want a minimum of two tickets. That's enough for 3 more Lambeau Fields. For the Packers to remove an entire section of seats the length of one of the sidelines doesn't make sense. IF they were to do something like that it would be like Busch Stadium it would be in the corner of the end zone. In St Louis it's in the corner of left field. As you mentioned there are hotels and restaurants over there. In Green Bay, nothing remotely equivalent at this time.
 

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No offense taken, just to be clear, I find the 4th one both extremely idiot and very interesting design (because of its uniqueness).

First thing, as I mentioned, from a security perspective, I'm thinking so many things could go from, from making it harder to protect whatever team is on that side from the crowd, to crowd or even vehicle rushing the field or people. You'd need a lot of extra security.

Also as you mentioned loss of seat tickets revenue. Though you also mentioned a huge negative loophole in the team seat revenue sharing.

As for the Packers and grass growing, I think their stadium is north/south, so that would not open the south for better grass growing.

I think I'd love to see a stadium designed like it, but it would probably be a disaster for any team that frequently fills their stadium and would probably need to be a college team that isn't a top tier team.


But I also sorta enjoy the idea of giving your opponents side clearly worse seating design, still the same quality seats, but worse design to see the game and have their cheers reach the field.

I do believe the open side, would need seats with some additional height as it went. Not nearly as much as the other side, but so those in further back rows could still see. 

But a school that is none for creating architecture, more than say elite sports, could totally use that as an awesome gimmick, just like some schools have used colored fields (Boise's blue field which sometimes birds dive on thinking it's a lake, or I think Washington State's Red field, which just bothers me for some reason, make me angry watching teams play a red field).


Also Iowa has it so they can wave to the Children Hospital, you could put whatever you want on that side, such as a hospital, or a fancy restaurant to see the field while eating all year round, or turn them into box seats in it's own building on the open side.


It'll take a ton of creativity to pull off successful, but I do think it could be done (of course there is more ways to fail than success at it).

Again, probably shouldn't be tried with a professional or top elite or super crowded college team. Also someplace with nice weather year round.

My first thought, was I'm volunteering San Diego (due to weather), but looking up architecture programs, Rice University (in Houston, Tx.) might be another interesting fit. Most of the top architecture programs (from the list I found) seem to be North East or California.

But absolutely, huge unnecessary risk that only should be taken for a team that's looking to show off their stadium designs year round and focus on creativity more than functionality and therefore, a school that doesn't pack their stadiums early and often.

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a year ago
I wanted my family to sprinkle my ashes onto the grass at Lambeau....that was until I realized they change out sod regularly.

How about including a mausoleum,  I think it would be extremely popular, and make tons of money....no up-keep, etc.
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nerdmann
a year ago

I wanted my family to sprinkle my ashes onto the grass at Lambeau....that was until I realized they change out sod regularly.

How about including a mausoleum,  I think it would be extremely popular, and make tons of money....no up-keep, etc.

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TONS of people would love their ashes sprinkled at Lambeau. That's a great idea. They should do something with that. 
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buckeyepackfan
a year ago
Mark Murphy was asked about a mausoleum back in 2018.

Murphy, understandably, isn't comfortable with the idea.
"Thanks for the out-of-the-box suggestion, Kurt. I've had fans ask if they can spread the ashes of a loved one at Lambeau Field, but a mausoleum would take it to a whole different level," Murphy wrote. "As much as I appreciate your creativity, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with a mausoleum at Lambeau Field, or using it as a source of revenue. I think we'll pass on the Lambeau mausoleum."

Murphy is gone in 2025, the next guy may see it different.

My brother-in-law, a huge Browns fan, passed 4 years ago 
The Browns have a yearly Weiner dog race in which my niece took her dog to compete in for several years.
The last time, she pulled an "Andy" from Shawshank, taking some of her father's ashes with her and spreading them on the field while getting her dog  ready for the race.
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