beast
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a year ago
https://lombardiave.com/posts/3-draft-picks-packers-2-regret/amp#slideshow-top-bar 

Whom do you think the Packers best and worst picks from this draft will be?
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a year ago
Best picks  -
1.  the TEs  -  Both if healthy should be day 1 starters.   Strong work ethic and wonderlic scores would indicate they can pick up the offense ,
2.  Van Ness - He might take a half a season to feel his oats, but he has the talent and drive.
3.  Wicks WR will be the biggest surprise

Worst picks -
1. Clifford -  he is a clip board holder at best, no real pro-level ability
2. Wooden  - Meh, I just don't see it....just a guy
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a year ago
I find it difficult to think that the Packers will "regret" any picks especially from the 5th round on. The odds of players in the later rounds making the team or making a significant contribution are pretty low. They are simply taking a chance as all teams do.

The best selections
1. Jayden Reed
2. Lukas Van Ness
3. Tucker Kraft

Least likely to contribute:
1. Carrington Valentine
2. Grant DuBose

Hopefully Sean Clifford will only see the field to knee down if victory formations or mop up time in the 4th quarter when the Packers are multiple scores ahead. Gutey has no regret in selecting him.

 
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nerdmann
a year ago
DuBose has some juice. I'll take him out and put Clifford in.
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porky88
a year ago
It's a cop out to say Van Ess, but he is special from a physical standpoint. His 10-yard is scary good. My hope is he learns to be discipline and seals the edge against the run. I am confident he'll rush the passer with his physical tools, but sealing the edge against the run is critical. Had Clay Matthews learned how to do it in his career, I think he would have made the Hall of Fame. Preston Smith has always been really good at dong that. It's an underrated aspect of his game, so perhaps he can pass that onto Van Ess.

Dontayvion Wicks gives me a James Jones vibe. I suspect he dropped due to questions about his ability to separate at the next level, but he can make up for that with route running.

You can make a case that Colby Wooten is more polished than Van Ess. He just lacks the physical tools. I think he may emerge as a starter on the defensive line. I believe I heard a scout say he has the body to bulk up, so I imagine that could be in the cards for him.

 
beast
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a year ago

Best picks  -
1.  the TEs  -  Both if healthy should be day 1 starters.   Strong work ethic and wonderlic scores would indicate they can pick up the offense ,
2.  Van Ness - He might take a half a season to feel his oats, but he has the talent and drive.
3.  Wicks WR will be the biggest surprise

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I completely agree with the TEs.

Why are you so high on WR Wicks?

Dontayvion Wicks gives me a James Jones vibe. I suspect he dropped due to questions about his ability to separate at the next level, but he can make up for that with route running.

You can make a case that Colby Wooten is more polished than Van Ess. He just lacks the physical tools. I think he may emerge as a starter on the defensive line. I believe I heard a scout say he has the body to bulk up, so I imagine that could be in the cards for him.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I read WR Wicks makes numerous errors in route running and his pure athletism is the only reason he was able to make up for the mistakes... also elsewhere he was among NCAA leaders in dropped passes, which I believe was from PFF. I thought the dropped passes would of taken him off the board, because traditionally the Packers value hands, especially under Ted Thompson, but also Gute picking WR J'Mon Moore, whom could more just like Devante Adams but couldn't catch a cold if he went streaking after skinny dipping in the middle of the coldest Green Bay winter.


​​​​​​I believe Van Ness was labeled a LB when Packers drafted him and Wooden and Brooks were labeled DTs. Which I find interesting and I'm wondering if they'll be changing up the scheme up front, as these guys (and Wyatt) are more athletic penetrating types and not run clogging type, which makes me wonder if we're changing things up front.

Wooden has strong powerful hands, which Packers seem to love in pass rushers, and he's athletic for the inside, maybe not athletic enough for the outside edge rusher. But Wooden can pass rush, some concern on him holding up against double teams on the inside, but maybe we're going to a lot more one gap attacking style.
 
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PackersNation
a year ago
Van Ness was a DE at Iowa, but is now an OLB/Edge in the Packers D. Wooden is for sure a DT and he is a beast. Brooks I have to see more of.
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a year ago

Van Ness was a DE at Iowa, but is now an OLB/Edge in the Packers D. Wooden is for sure a DT and he is a beast. Brooks I have to see more of.

Originally Posted by: PackersNation 

Van Ness was a rational DT at Iowa before 2022. In 2022 he became a DE for them.

Wooden is a me? I think he started off as a DE but he wasn't athletic enough and got moved to DT where he was athletic enough, and physical enough, but didn't necessarily have the weight/power to stop a double team or two gap. Then when injuries hit DE, they put him back out there. He's a tweener but might make a great penetrating DT or 3-4 DE.

From the little I've seen Brooks was fulltime DE in college but he's 300+ lbs, and totally getting moved to the interior in the NFL and was used that way at the Senior Bowl. I figure that transition (which not everyone can make), small school, shorter arms and very inconsistent in the run stopping game is why he dropped so far.... but he MIGHT become a pass rush specialist quickly, but still needs to work on the run stopping game and adjusting to DT.



One thing is absolutely clear, the Packers scouts sure do like strong powerful hands in their pass rushers, base on this draft and last year's draft, they want someone with power.


I'm actually wondering if we're going to see them tweak the defensive front... usually they grabbed two gap NTs, now they're grabbing a lot of one gap penetrating DT/DEs. I'm hoping we're going to see a more aggressive attacking style up front. Maybe using.some more 3-4 (or 5-2) fronts or looks.

For that ILB Walker will need to be able to cover the TE or slot WR, but coverage is supposed to be his best skill. 

Also, if we don't use a single Tampa 2 coverage again, Berry needs to be fired (okay maybe not that extreme if the team does well) but this defensive scheme is meant for mixing and matching coverages to confuse the offense, with this scheme and with being an athletic coverage ILB, one would think you'd occasionally see a Tampa 2 zone drop, at least if you trust Walker. I'm not saying do it 10% of the time, nor 5% or not even once a game... but at least 5-10 times a season to try to catch the offense off guard, no way are they expecting it.

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PackersNation
a year ago
Edit:: 

Comment removed as I see this thread posted on another site by some stalkers of mine.

Nice try little Bears fan. You want my words? You gotta pay for 'em like everybody else.
Zero2Cool
a year ago
Best part is the draft is over. Worst part is the grades on kids who haven't even suited up.

I just wanna see them play. See them grow. The TE's and WR from Day Two are what I'm more excited about and that 7th round Safety. 
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