Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I think Mongo's partner was Sting, but I'm not really sure. I remember seeing him, just never followed it much to remember.
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beast
13 years ago

Great list Nerdmann,Extra credit if you can name this guys wrestling partner back in the 90's.
16] DT Steve McMichael (1994/14 starts) – It’s easy to forget that the ex-Bear spent the final season of his 15-year career in Green Bay. That’s because he was awful. He later admitted that he “stole money” from the Packers. Anybody who watched him meander through 14 starts would wholeheartedly agree. The 35-year-old had nothing left in the tank.

Originally Posted by: SINCITYCHEEZE 



McMichael was working the gimmick he'd do anything for money, even play for the Packers. So when McMichael was bribed a whole lot of money he turned on his partner Kevin Greene... and attacked him.


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macbob
13 years ago
Kevin Greene...bwahahahaha...

I couldn't have done what the article writer did--single out the 10 worst Packers over that time frame. There are just too many from the Starr error...er, era, alone. What a dog shit team he inherited.

I'm still amazed at the magnitude of the fall from Lombardi to Devine, from the tops of the NFL in 1967 to the dregs in 1974. Devine's trade for John Hadl had to rank as about the worst in NFL history (before the Vikings' trade for Herschel Walker).
macbob
13 years ago
Jersey Al has a series of articles running on Packers & Wrestling. Here's the first:

The Complete History of Green Bay Packers in Professional Wrestling: Introduction — Blame Aaron Rodgers and the Title Belt

By Adam Czech

http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2011/06/12/the-complete-history-of-green-bay-packers-in-professional-wrestling-introduction-blame-aaron-rodgers-and-the-title-belt/ 

Like most Packers fans, I have a list of favorite Packers moments that will remain etched in the green and gold portion of my brain forever. The list includes the Packers Super Bowl titles in 1996 and 2020, my first game at Lambeau and watching the Packers win the NFC title live and in-person in Chicago.

The full bank of memories are too numerous to list here, but there is one particular memory that is probably unique to my brain and my brain only: I remember the first time I noticed Aaron Rodgers do the championship belt.

(Editor’s Note: Today begins a very different and interesting series by Adam Czech, a self-professed professional wrestling geek and Packers fanatic. For the next month of Sundays, we’ll be having a “Sunday Storytime” with new installments of this series. Even if you’re not that into wrestling, I think you’ll find plenty of interesting Packers stories that you will enjoy (I know I have). So, as the Monty Pythoners’ used to say, “And now for something completely different…)

It was 2008 and my wife and I were watching the Packers play the Titans on a snowy TV in a friend’s basement in Madison. Rodgers scrambled for a first down, dashed out of bounds, let the ball fall to the ground, then gave a quick title belt before jogging back to the huddle. I kept asking myself if I really saw what I thought I just saw. Did the quarterback of my favorite football team just pretend that he was the WWF world heavyweight champion?

Rodgers might have done the title belt before and I just didn’t notice it, but it doesn’t matter. I noticed it on this particular day, and I have noticed it ever since. It’s my favorite sports celebration ever and probably always will be.

Read on and maybe you will understand why (maybe).

Obsessed with wrestling
Some people take the NFL too seriously. Others let shopping, home projects or rebuilding cars take up too much of their lives. I’m obsessed with professional wrestling – specifically wrestling from the 1980s and early 90s. It’s embarrassing to admit, but I am a 29-year-old man that still watches old-school professional wrestling.

I not only watch it, but I also discuss it and analyze it with other wrestling nerds on various message boards and blogs. I probably own over 400 DVDs that are filled with classic wrestling footage. To me, 80s wrestling is the perfect blend of athleticism, violence, drama, marketing, politics, strategic development and show businesses. While others laugh at wrestling’s absurdity, I’m intrigued by the behind-the-scenes workings and what makes the men behind the wrestling characters tick.

I guarantee Aaron Rodgers does not approach my level of wrestling nerdiness. He is probably not even in the same ballpark. But when he busts out the title belt I feel like we’re connected somehow. You know that feeling you get when someone walks by wearing the T-shirt of an underground band that you thought nobody else on the planet listened to besides you? You don’t know the person wearing the T-shirt, but you still nod and say “nice shirt.” The other person acknowledges your compliment and even though the entire encounter lasts maybe two seconds, there’s a connection. The T-shirt of an obscure band somehow makes you feel like you’re linked with a person you’ve never met and probably will never see again the rest of your life.

That’s how I feel whenever Rodgers does the title belt.

What’s the point?
I have spent 512 words trying to describe why a silly football celebration makes me feel connected to a multi-millionaire, Super Bowl-winning quarterback that I will likely never meet in person. I have also exposed myself as a giant geek that still watches grown men in tights pretend to beat each other up. What am I trying to prove?

I think it’s long overdue that someone puts together the ultimate guide to professional wrestlers with ties to the Green Bay Packers. I am sick of the lockout and the offseason in general. In other words, now is the perfect time for a dork like me to compile The Complete History of Green Bay Packers in Professional Wrestling.

It’s also timely. Aided by an actual championship belt draped over his shoulder, Rodgers’ title belt celebration went national after the Super Bowl. Packers linebackers coach Kevin Greene also had a brief stint in wrestling in the mid-90s and several current Packers appeared on WWE Smackdown after the Super Bowl.

I envision this historical document becoming one of the most valued and revered pieces of work in the history of Packers literature. I know that one day it will end up on the book shelf (or hard drive) of every Packers fan in the world. It is only a matter of time before critics and readers put The Complete History of Green Bay Packers in Professional Wrestling on the same level as When Pride Still Mattered or Life After Favre.

Actually, nobody will probably read this besides me and Jersey Al. And Jersey Al will only read it because he ultimately has to decide if he wants to publish this thing and possibly tarnish the good name of his website forever. But I don’t care. Nobody wants to read about the lockout, so hopefully a few of you get a kick out of this project and my musings on the wrestling and football connection.

I originally planned for The Complete History of Green Bay Packers in Professional Wrestling to be a single post, but it has grown into a monster that requires multiple chapters. Each chapter will be posted in the coming weeks as long as the lockout drags on and the number of readers that threaten to boycott the site remain few.

Here is a brief preview of each chapter:

The Complete History of Green Bay Packers in Professional Wrestling
Chapter 1: The NFL and Wrestling Connection
An overview and brief history of NFL players that also wrestled.

Chapter 2: Kevin Greene, Steve “Mongo” McMichael and the 4 Horsemen
Insights and highlights of current Packers linebackers coach Kevin Greene in World Championship Wrestling.

Chapter 3: Dick the Bruiser
William Afflis was a lineman for the Packers in the early 1950s. After his football career ended, Afflis became a pro wrestler and earned national fame as Dick the Bruiser.

Chapter 4: Wrestlers/Packers Capsules
A reference guide of professional wrestlers with connections to the Green Bay Packers.

The title belt celebration is not loved by all, but it’s loved by this wrestling nerd. Both the Green Bay Packers and professional wrestling feature histories filled with colorful characters, entertaining stories and memorable moments. Over the next couple of weeks, this series will take a look at how those histories intersect.

I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed compiling it.

JerseyAl wrote:


macbob
13 years ago
Jersey Al has a lot of links in the article, I'd recommend going to his site and following up on any links you find interesting.

The Complete History of Green Bay Packers in Professional Wrestling: Chapter 1 — The Football and Wrestling Connection

by Adam Czech

http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2011/06/19/the-complete-history-of-green-bay-packers-in-professional-wrestling-chapter-1-the-football-and-wrestling-connection/ 

This is chapter 1 in a series examining the history of the NFL, the Green Bay Packers and professional wrestling. The introduction to the series can be read here.

In 1986, Vince McMahon, Jr. was in the middle of transforming the World Wrestling Federation (WWF) from a regional promotion in the northeast to a national powerhouse that would eventually wipe out every other wrestling territory in the United States. McMahon used his deep pockets to lure away top wrestlers like Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper from rival promotions. He also used his marketing and promotional skills to develop many of his wrestlers into larger than life characters with mainstream appeal.

But McMahon was not satisfied with running a successful wrestling promotion. He wanted to create an entertainment empire that happened to involve wrestling. He wanted the WWF to be viewed on the same level as a major movie studio that produced blockbuster films, or a record label with bands that released No. 1 hits.

To achieve this, McMahon knew he needed more than top-level wrestling talent. He needed something that could make wrestling “cool,” something that would appeal to a younger generation and people who normally did not pay attention to wrestling.

The Rock ‘n Wrestling connection was born.

Wrestling Becomes Cool
McMahon partnered with MTV in the mid-80s to reach the younger and hipper audience he was targeting. He also brought in rock singers and celebrities like Cyndi Lauper to broaden the WWF’s brand beyond the scope of traditional professional wrestling.

To be fair, McMahon was not the first promoter to incorporate celebrities and musical acts into the wrestling world. To sell tickets for larger-scale events, wrestling promoters occasionally brought in musicians to perform after matches or local celebrities to make some sort of appearance. But nobody did it like McMahon.

McMahon used celebrities to build the WWF for the long term. In addition to selling tickets, McMahon wanted the celebrities he used to establish the WWF as mainstream entertainment. He had a vision of where he wanted to take the WWF, and he recognized that celebrities could help get him there.

The WWF’s flirtation with celebrities came to a head at the first Wrestlemania, held at Madison Square Garden in New York on March 31, 1985. Celebrities like Lauper, Mr. T, Liberace, Muhammad Ali and Billy Martin helped Wrestlemania reach over a million people through closed-circuit television and establish the WWF as “hip” and “cool.”

In addition to celebrities, McMahon used his connections in the New York media market to help sell his brand of sports entertainment. He also took full advantage of the emerging cable TV industry, strong-armed arena owners throughout the country to exclusively book the WWF and exaggerated the truth about his company whenever possible to make the WWF appear on the same level of popularity as major sports leagues or top-drawing musical acts.

The Wrestlemania II Battle Royal
By 1986, McMahon had already weakened much of his competition and was looking to further distance the WWF from other wrestling promotions with Wrestlemania II. The follow-up to 1985’s inaugural event featured three main events in three different cities. In Los Angeles, world champion Hulk Hogan faced King Kong Bundy in a steel cage; in New York, Roddy Piper squared off against Mr. T in a boxing match; and in Chicago, WWF wrestlers were mixed with NFL players in a 20-man over-the-top rope battle royal.

NFL players in the battle royal included Bill Fralic, Jimbo Covert, Russ Francis, Ernie Holmes, Harvey Martin and William “the Refrigerator” Perry. The Fridge was at the height of his popularity after winning the Super Bowl with the Bears in 1985 and went over big time with the Chicago fans. He also provided the match’s most memorable moment.

The Fridge entered the ring by leaping over the top rope and immediately began taunting WWF midcarder Big John Studd. Studd eventually eliminated the Fridge, but Perry had the last laugh. Standing on the floor after being eliminated, Perry offered to shake Studd’s hand. When Studd accepted, Perry pulled Studd over the top rope and eliminated him.

The battle royal was eventually won by Andre the Giant.

Lawrence Taylor in Wrestlemania XI
Another notable Wrestlemania appearance by an NFL player came in 1995 when Lawrence Taylor beat Bam Bam Bigelow in the main event of Wrestlemania 11. Celebrity and professional athlete appearances often do not go over well with the actual wrestlers. Many wrestlers feel that the money spent on celebrities would be better spent on the workers that wrestle night after night instead of investing it on a one-off appearance by some celebrity that might or might not pay off. By most accounts, however, Taylor earned the respect of the WWF locker room by taking his match seriously and putting in the time and effort to make his appearance credible and successful.

Unlike most celebrity appearances, Taylor was actually wrestling a one-on-one match; and not just any match, the main event at Wrestlemania. Putting a non-wrestler in the main event of Wrestlemania is like one of the Super Bowl teams bringing in LeBron James to play quarterback for the big game. It might be interesting, but the potential for disaster is great.

But Taylor more than held his own. The troubled hall of famer’s match with Bigelow is regarded by many wrestling observers as the best worked bout involving a celebrity in wrestling history. Taylor gets winded during the match, but he does a good job of taking all of Bigelow’s moves, selling them accordingly, and dishing out some offense of his own. Taylor got the win when he pinned Bigelow after nailing him with a forearm off the second rope.

Taylor brought several NFL players to ringside to prevent outside interference from the Million Dollar Corporation, a stable of heels (bad guys) that Bigelow was affiliated with. Players included Ken Norton Jr., Chris Spielman, Rickey Jackson, Carl Banks, Reggie White and Steve McMichael.






From Professional Football to Professional Wrestling
Professional football players turning to professional wrestling is not limited to one-off appearances at major events. Several former players have gone on to achieve national fame and fortune in the wrestling world after leaving football. It also wasn’t uncommon for professional football players to wrestle during the offseason when salaries required football players to find additional work in the offseason.

Bronko Nagurski is the only former player to be in the pro football hall of fame and hold the NWA world championship. Ed “Wahoo” McDaniel was a defensive standout for the Jets and Dolphins before enjoying a 30-year wrestling career. Ernie “Big Cat” Ladd was a four-time All-AFL star before embarking on a wrestling career that eventually landed him in the WWE hall of fame.

Cowboy Bill Watts played briefly for the Houston Oilers in the AFL before McDaniel, his college teammate at the University of Oklahoma, convinced him to try wrestling. Watts headlined matches across the country and eventually started his own promotion and was recently inducted into the WWE hall of fame.

Bill Goldberg did not achieve much as a member of the Falcons, but his popularity exploded as the top draw for World Championship Wrestling (WCW) in the late 90s and early 2000s.

Peter King, then of the Cincinnati Enquirer, once wrote that Bengals linebacker Brian Pillman had the most desire of any player he’s ever seen. That desire only resulted in six NFL games, but it helped Pillman achieve wrestling success as the “Loose Cannon” in the WWF, WCW and Extreme Championship Wrestling.

Jim Wilson played in the AFL and NFL in the mid-60s and early 70s before starting a promising wrestling career in the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA). Wilson claimed he was blackballed from wrestling after turning down sexual advances from NWA promoter Jim Barnett. Wilson also tried (and failed) to form a union for professional wrestlers and published a tell-all book about the wrestling business in 2003.

Taking an alternate approach, Brock Lesnar left the WWE in 2004 and tried to make the Minnesota Vikings roster. He failed, but eventually went on to become a top draw in the UFC.

Most recently, current New York Jets linebacker Bart Scott appeared on TNA Wrestling’s iMPACT and actually wrestled. Scott (like this geeky blogger) can name almost every wrestler from the 80s. He also left open the possibility of returning to the ring, especially if the lockout drags on.

Final Word
Football and wrestling are more connected than most people realize. And why not? Both feature superb athletes, crazy interviews, enigmatic leaders, public scrutiny and cheating while the ref is distracted.

Life in the NFL has gotten much better since the days of Nagurski, Watts and McDaniel. With players making six figures or more annually, the chances of seeing another player leave the gridiron for the squared circle are slim.

Life has also improved in wrestling since the old days. McMahon succeeded in snuffing out all rival promotions (TNA popped up recently, but so far is not a major threat), and has been forced to try and clean the business. Wrestlers in the WWE are now drug tested, steel chair shots to the head are limited to reduce concussions, salaries are higher and the travel schedule is less grueling.

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if football and wrestling merged. What would an NFL run by Vince McMahon look like? Would he encourage coaches to make the postgame press conference more entertaining? How would Tom Brady fit into the wrestling world? What sort of revealing outfits would Gisele wear as his manager?

These are some of the thoughts that go through my wrestling and football-obsessed head. Truth is, as connected as football and wrestling appear at times, they have no business taking it beyond the flirtation stage. After all, we’ve already seen what happened when the two tried to get married.

JerseyAl wrote:

macbob
13 years ago
Again, lots of links within the story. If interested, follow the link below to Jersey Al's. He's got links to other videos, photos, etc embedded in the story...

The Complete History of Green Bay Packers in Professional Wrestling: Chapter 2 — Kevin Greene, Steve McMichael and the 4 Horsemen

by Adam Czech

http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2011/06/26/the-complete-history-of-green-bay-packers-in-professional-wrestling-chapter-2-%e2%80%94-kevin-greene-steve-mcmichael-and-the-4-horsemen/ 

We continue our “Sunday Storytime” with chapter 2 in a series examining the history of the NFL, the Green Bay Packers and professional wrestling. The introduction to the series can be read here. Chapter 1 can be read here.

Watching Kevin Greene sack quarterbacks was sort of like watching a pale, blond-haired Tasmanian Devil chase Bugs Bunny. Of course the main difference was Greene often caught the quarterbacks he chased. Taz typically ended up getting an anvil dropped on his head.

Greene played with the type of energy and attitude some may have considered reckless if he wasn’t so damn good. His mouth moved almost as fast as his legs. He flung his body around without fear of injury. And you could usually find him before the game high-fiving the mascot, kissing his wife or banging his head against something.

Greene brings that same energy to the Packers as a linebackers coach. Who can forget Greene’s “It’s Time” speech to Clay Matthews moments before Matthews forced a key fumble early in the fourth quarter in Super Bowl XLV?

Given Greene’s personality, it’s easy to see how Greene ended up in professional wrestling.

Teaming with McMichael
Greene made his in-ring debut for WCW at the Great American Bash on June 16, 1996. His first angle involved former Chicago Bear and Green Bay Packer Steve McMichael, McMichael’s real-life wife Debra Marshall, the legendary “Nature Boy” Ric Flair and the Four Horsemen.

Flair was hitting on Marshall, and naturally, McMichael was mad. McMichael brought in Greene to team up against Flair and his longtime partner in the Horsemen, Arn Anderson. The stage was set for the gridiron greats to meet the squared circle legends in a make believe fight to the finish. (Note: Marshall eventually divorced McMichael and became the real-life wife of “Stone Cold” Steve Austin.)

WCW was extremely popular in the South, especially in the Carolinas. Since Greene played for the Carolina Panthers at the time, bringing him in to team with McMichael seemed like a good fit. The actual match was nothing memorable, but the swerve at the end led to a blip in wrestling history that angered many passionate (geeky) wrestling fans like me.

Near the end of the match, Marshall delivered a briefcase full of cash to McMichael. The payoff came from the Four Horsemen and McMichael was more than willing to accept the bribe. He closed the briefcase, clobbered Greene over the head with it and joined the prestigious Horesemen, perhaps the most influential stable in wrestling history.

McMichael was now a member of a group that many felt he had no businesses belonging to.

Worst Horseman Ever?
To smart wrestling fans, The Four Horseman are the most beloved wrestling stable ever. Led by Flair, the Horsemen always had the best matches, the best interviews and the best characters. When McMichael joined, longtime fans were puzzled. The former NFLer couldn’t wrestle, cut boring interviews, and came across as a dud despite his best efforts to sound cool.

Many in the wrestling community rank McMichael as one of the worst, if not the worst member of the Four Horsemen in the stable’s almost 30-year history. My guess is the only reason McMichael became a Horseman was because he was friendly with Flair and Anderson in real life.

During a shoot interview (an interview where wrestlers discuss behind-the-scenes decisions and other industry gossip), Flair said that McMichael liked to party and have a good time and that McMichael got to know many of the wrestlers by partying with them whenever the promotions traveled through Chicago. Since the Horsemen were hard partiers in real-life, and also bragged about their partying through their wrestling characters, perhaps they figured McMichael was a good fit.

Greene’s Wrestling Career
Surprisingly, Greene was fairly subdued during his wrestling debut. He didn’t run to the ring like a crazed maniac and start attacking everybody. He calmly walked down the aisle and appeared focused instead of fanatical. Greene picked up the intensity as his sporadic wrestling career progressed, but for the most part, he adopted more of a focused and intense character instead of wild and crazed.

Unfortunately, Greene never appeared comfortable in the ring. Perhaps it was because what made Greene lovably insane on the football field didn’t quite translate to a wrestling arena. There are probably other reasons:
•Professional wrestling is hard. Most people see the absurdity of wrestling and assume any schmuck can do it. Not true. It takes a lot of work and a lot of years for wrestlers to not only develop their in-ring skills, but also their characters and persona. Beyond that, wrestlers also have to develop chemistry with opponents and endure a grueling travel schedule. Greene simply didn’t wrestle enough to consistently get better.
•Greene entered WCW at a strange time. The company was experiencing a huge boom in business thanks to the NWO, but behind-the-scenes politics and a lack of vision were threatening that success. Besides the angle with McMichael and brief run with The Giant, Greene was never put in a well-thought-out program where he was allowed to shine. Instead he became one of many guys that showed promise, but didn’t go anywhere because WCW didn’t know how to develop them. The fact that Greene was a part-time wrestler due to his football career probably played a role in this, but it would have been nice to see what Greene could have done if he was given a consistent program over an extended period.
•Even though the Macho Man Randy Savage and Terry Taylor helped train him, Greene never developed an in-ring repertoire beyond the typical “football player moves.” When football players appear in wrestling, their moveset usually consists of shoulder blocks, tackles and body slams. Greene was no exception. Unless you’re dripping with charisma (like Hulk Hogan) you need a bit more to truly get over with fans and build a career.

Memorable Moments
Neither Greene or McMichael will be remembered by wrestling historians for making any significant contributions to the industry. But it is interesting to note the number of memorable moments that the two were around for:
•McMichael was one of many NFL players in Lawrence Taylor’s corner for his Wrestlemania match against Bam Bam Bigelow.
•Greene and McMichael participated in the match that led to McMichael becoming a Horseman.
•McMichael wrestled and defeated Reggie White at WCW’s Slamboree in 1997.
•McMichael was one of Bill Goldberg’s first victims. Goldberg, who had a cup of coffee with the Atlanta Falcons, became one of the most popular wrestlers of the late 90s and early 00s.
•Greene and McMichael frequently crossed paths with the NWO, the stable that revived wrestling in the mid 90s.
•McMichael returned to wrestling 2008 when he refereed a match at TNA’s first pay-per-view.

No, Greene and McMichael might never be inducted into the wrestling hall of fame, but it’s fun to look back on their careers in the squred-circle anyway. They entered wrestling just as it was becoming cool again and were able to ride that wave and enjoy a little bit of success (in McMichael’s case, probably a little more than he deserved).

But most importantly, Greene’s time in WCW inspired Aaron Rodgers’ title belt celebration, or at least that’s what the QB says (even if his tongue might be planted firmly in cheek).

Forget the actual world title belt. I’ll take the Kevin Greene-inspired Rodgers’ version every time.





JerseyAl wrote:

buckeyepackfan
13 years ago
What the author forgets to say is that Bart Starr was handicapped from day one by the ineptness of the Higher ups who traded away pretty much the first 3 years of Starr's top draft picks to San Diego for an aging worthless John Hadle.

With no free agency and very few 1's and 2's the firsr 3 years, pretty much made it tough for Bart.

JMO, but the author is being very unfair to Starr.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
nerdmann
13 years ago
That's a good point. If they would have kept Starr, the Packers would probably have been in the playoffs the next year. They had an explosive offense, but they couldn't stop teams on defense. They were getting better though. Mad Dog Douglas was awesome!
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