nerdmann
2 years ago
Definitely seems like Watkins doesn't know the playbook. Also, Lazard doesn't look like the best route runner. Then add in the rookies.




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nerdmann
2 years ago
Packers struggled on 3rd down in this game.




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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
I like the stuff from Kurt Warner. It makes me feel less likely that Aaron Rodgers is done. And it's more a product of poor route running and poor OL play.

Also, I think our WR coach is doo-doo.
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2 years ago

I like the stuff from Kurt Warner. It makes me feel less likely that Aaron Rodgers is done. And it's more a product of poor route running and poor OL play.

Also, I think our WR coach is doo-doo.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Maybe our WR's are do-do as our GM is do-do
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nerdmann
2 years ago

I like the stuff from Kurt Warner. It makes me feel less likely that Aaron Rodgers is done. And it's more a product of poor route running and poor OL play.

Also, I think our WR coach is doo-doo.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Is it weird how against Mike McCarthy suddenly the WRs are good enough for Aaron to suddenly click it into gear and so happen to win the game?
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Maybe our WR's are do-do as our GM is do-do

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



This could be true if the WR's mistakes were talent, not coach. Watch the video and you'll see you just trying to beat up on the GM is pointless and careless. It's explained very well that coaching is the problem.  IF the coaching is not the problem, then they have an accountability problem. I know these rules of running routes and I am not in the NFL. IF I know them, and able to do them, sure as heck a professional WR should. But hey, you go ahead and blame the GM. Why not throw in Mark Murphy while we're throwing pitch forks around without a care of logic? Let's not stop there, let's dig up Ted Thompson so we can beat him up too. 

BURN'EM ALL!!!

Hyperbolic ranting aside. I think it's a combination of coaching and Sammy Watkins being a dumbass. The other WR's are able to do it so that tend to believe coaching isn't completely horse crap. Even the rookies are running better routes.
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dyeah_gb
2 years ago

This could be true if the WR's mistakes were talent, not coach. Watch the video and you'll see you just trying to beat up on the GM is pointless and careless. It's explained very well that coaching is the problem.  IF the coaching is not the problem, then they have an accountability problem. I know these rules of running routes and I am not in the NFL. IF I know them, and able to do them, sure as heck a professional WR should. But hey, you go ahead and blame the GM. Why not throw in Mark Murphy while we're throwing pitch forks around without a care of logic? Let's not stop there, let's dig up Ted Thompson so we can beat him up too. 

BURN'EM ALL!!!

Hyperbolic ranting aside. I think it's a combination of coaching and Sammy Watkins being a dumbass. The other WR's are able to do it so that tend to believe coaching isn't completely horse crap. Even the rookies are running better routes.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Two things can be true at once.  Regarding players, WRs have been a mixed story this year with Sammy Watkins and Lazard being the dissapointing part of the tale.  Rookies give us something to be excited about but the performance of the guy with the 50m contract has been depressing. 

As you know, I blame the GM for the cap hell contracts he set up and dont feel a pitch fork is necessary.   I would have been fine with a losing record this year with Love as QB and 2 additional firsts to look forward to (admitting any trades were just a rumors). Maybe Rodgers will turn it around next year since the team cant even start the rebuild until 2025.
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2 years ago
Mr. Cool said :

This could be true if the WR's mistakes were talent, not coach. Watch the video and you'll see you just trying to beat up on the GM is pointless and careless. It's explained very well that coaching is the problem.

Hardly.

You fail to factor in that the problem may be multi-faceted.  The players may have physical talent, but are not executing, perhaps because the coaching is bad AND the players are too dense or unmotivated to pick up their assignments.

Perhaps you don't think Vrable is a good coach, and maybe his isn't.  But it is obvious, even to me, that Watkins has not grasped his assignments.  Further, I have seen Lazard give up on plays and not look for the ball on numerous occasions.   He is hardly a #1 receiver, either physically, mentally, or psychologically.

Moreover, physical talent without football smarts is useless.

IIRC, the Packers are at or near the bottom of Wonderlic test scores, and that is by the choice/de-emphasis of the GM.  

Did Rich Bisaccia all of a sudden become a bad special teams coach, because the Packers drop punts, still commit too many penalties, and have porous PAT/FG blocking?  I don't think so.

What I am trying to assert is that perhaps we should not be blaming the chefs when the groceries are of poor quality.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Two things can be true at once.  Regarding players, WRs have been a mixed story this year with Sammy Watkins and Lazard being the dissapointing part of the tale.  Rookies give us something to be excited about but the performance of the guy with the 50m contract has been depressing. 

As you know, I blame the GM for the cap hell contracts he set up and dont feel a pitch fork is necessary.   I would have been fine with a losing record this year with Love as QB and 2 additional firsts to look forward to (admitting any trades were just a rumors). Maybe Rodgers will turn it around next year since the team cant even start the rebuild until 2025.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 


Pretty sure I did say it could be more than one thing. So, yes. 😁

Mr. Cool said :Hardly.

You fail to factor in that the problem may be multi-faceted. 

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


You lost me when you said I "fail". I do not fail.  

Do any of you know what this means? "I think it's a combination"  it means more than one. It means more than one facet. C'MON PEOPLE!!! You haven't loaded your bellies with turkey yet, no excuses for this!! 🤣🤣🤣
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nerdmann
2 years ago
That kid's breakdown of Titans game.




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