Zero2Cool
a month ago
According this website below, the Packers have drafted the worst over last 10 years.
https://blog.betway.com/nfl/which-nfl-teams-draft-the-best/ 

According to the website below, the Packers have drafted 12th best over last 10 years in the first round.

Most Successful
https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/the-most-successful-first-round-teams-in-the-nfl-draft-the-last-10-years 

Least Successful
https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/the-least-successful-first-round-teams-in-the-nfl-draft-the-last-10-years 

The one that took into account the draft slot is alright. However, taking into account games played seems pointless. If the team relies heavily on the draft, aren't those guys starting out of necessity, not talent alone?
Average pick: 22.8 (No. 3)
Percentage of games: 68.3% (No. 3)

Anyhow, what do you think about those links? How do you think Packers fair in drafting?
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bboystyle
a month ago
We seem to suck in early rounds (specifically first) and thrive in mid rounds and this shows. We have a bunch of good to ok guys. Good enough to compete but not good enough to win championships
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a month ago
It's not easy to know how well a college player is going to do in the NFL. There are more misses than hits even in the first round. It's painful to hear/read people talk about the success of a franchise when they have not been a part of a front office team making the selections.
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TheKanataThrilla
a month ago
Having Aaron Rodgers for many of those years and he is outside that draft window means much of the possible points allocated to us doesn't happen with the first link. Also we know the Pro Bowl is more of a popularity test (hence all the Cowboys) so that it is added to the metric I am not a big fan of either.

We have a nice chat during draft night here. I have to admit many of us have been confused by our first round selections. Not sure if they get locked in on a player, but when some premium players drop like Christian Gonzalez did in the LVN draft I think they have to go for the BPA. It feels we take too many projects in the first round who finally get around to playing well when they are playing for a new contract.
a month ago
I think you need your first three draft picks to be your best players early on in their careers.
So if we look at the last few years:
2024. Grade- D at this point,
and if Morgan and Lloyd develop a B
but now, incomplete
- Round 1, Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona - obviously we're hoping for big things but nothing thus far
- Round 2, Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M - excellent first year
- Round 2, Pick 58: Javon Bullard, S, Georgia - good at times needs to improve
- Round 3, Pick 88: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC - nobody knows
- Round 3, Pick 91: Ty’Ron Hopper, LB, Missouri - MEH

2023 NFL Draft. Grade D+
- Round 1: Lucas Van Ness - Bad, yes he had a broken thumb, and probably a crappy coach. Nevertheless his creativity and production was underwhelming
- Round 2, Pick 50: Jayden Reed, WR, Michigan State - Decent
- Round 2, Pick 62: Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon State - injuries have hurt his development but I see him as below average at best
- Round 3, Pick 78: Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota State - a great pick

2022 NFL Draft. - Grade a C at best
- Round 1, Pick 22: Quay Walker, LB, Georgia - performing more like a fourth or fifth rounder in my opinion. they declined to pick up his fifth year option which tells you a lot
- Round 2, Pick 34: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State - injuries but not great consistent performance when healthy..
- Round 2, Pick 53: Sean Rhyan, G, UCLA - a decent to possibly good pick. We shall see
- Round 3, Pick 92: Zach Tom, OT, Wake Forest - a great pick

I think the composite score here is not terribly strong. I think Gutey gets a C on an absolute ranking in a D if you grade on a curve.

The net is, to Bboystyle's point, we have to do a hell of a lot better on our early pics if we are going to be competitive



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