beast
3 years ago


And yet we'll still hear people saying DRAFT WR ROUND ONE!! As if it's some guarantee or something.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I think there was a study done on success/failed 1st round picks by position, and if I remember correctly WR was the largest 1st round fail rate, though I think that was partly due to them over drafting the position, as more WRs were taken than other positions, but as you mentioned, then teams also found better ones in later rounds, as I think in part teams focus too much on combine and physical potential and not enough on the tape.

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3 years ago

I think there was a study done on success/failed 1st round picks by position, and if I remember correctly WR was the largest 1st round fail rate, though I think that was partly due to them over drafting the position, as more WRs were taken than other positions, but as you mentioned, then teams also found better ones in later rounds, as I think in part teams focus too much on combine and physical potential and not enough on the tape.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I wouldn't mind if the Packers wait to take a WR. Nearly every 1st round WR prospect has issues.

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beast
3 years ago

I wouldn't mind if the Packers wait to take a WR. Nearly every 1st round WR prospect has issues.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Gute doesn't like waiting, he likes trading up...

But there are some players I think fans are overlooking, and might go in round one and everyone will scream reach, but their physical potential is elite, even if their hype is not...

Such as WR Christian Watson

I'm just wondering what will be our non-WR picks.

DT, Edge, OL, S, TE?
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Mucky Tundra
3 years ago



I'm just wondering what will be our non-WR picks.

DT, Edge, OL, S, TE?

Originally Posted by: beast 



I would also guess they'll draft a CB on day 3 for depth/ST/long term project since there's a drop off after Jaire/Stokes/Douglas with Sullivan/King looking like they're gone.

I've read on Twitter that GB has talked to Seattle about Lockett and Metcalf.

For remaining FA, it looks like it's down to Landry or Watkins.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
Pointing out that some great WRs have been picked in later rounds doesn't mean you can wait and pick one in later rounds and be guaranteed a great player.
For every one picked that turn out great, there are a dozen that don't end up being great.
Of course there are also many first round ones that don't pan out either.
If a WR that your GM feels can be the guy, you pick him. If that's in the first round, then pull the trigger.
You have to trust your draft guys that go over the college players. And then hope like heck that they were right.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Pointing out that some great WRs have been picked in later rounds doesn't mean you can wait and pick one in later rounds and be guaranteed a great player.
For every one picked that turn out great, there are a dozen that don't end up being great.
Of course there are also many first round ones that don't pan out either.
If a WR that your GM feels can be the guy, you pick him. If that's in the first round, then pull the trigger.
You have to trust your draft guys that go over the college players. And then hope like heck that they were right.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



The reason it is pointed out is because so many around the league bemoan the Packers for NOT drafting a WR in round one as if it was a guarantee lock he'd be a stud. Same people complain the Packers haven't done enough for the defense and thus wasting Aaron Rodgers.

There is no guarantee, we all konw that, but when you can choose from 300 guys vs 100 guys, you should have better odds of getting a good prospect to develop. It just seems WR's in 2nd and 3rd round seem to have a higher success rate than those in the 1st round. Why? I have no idea.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
Why? The draft is a crap shoot
College greatness isn't a guarantee of NFL greatness.
Too many variables.
Who was their college QB? Their coach? Their level of compatition? And so on.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Why? The draft is a crap shoot
College greatness isn't a guarantee of NFL greatness.
Too many variables.
Who was their college QB? Their coach? Their level of compatition? And so on.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I got into a little beef on the Tweeter about something similar when folks were talking Davante Adams and Derek Carr broke college football records. My response was where are those guys they played against and set those records against? They're selling insurance or sitting in office as stock brokers, lol. Point being, I can set a crap ton of records too against elementary school kids. It doesn't mean I'm going to blow it up in the NFL.
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dhazer
3 years ago
For the people talking about Metcalf I think you should step back a little and look at the big picture. We probably have to give up a 1st and 2nd or 3rd to get him. He has already showed his TO temper a few times which honestly I don't mind emotion on the sideline (would be nice to see in GB sometime) but the biggest thing is he is coming into his contract year next season. So we will be back in the same boat do we fork out a ton of cash and not sign players or let him walk and we wasted 2 picks on him. I dont think any of the other wideouts are worth the money like Julio and Landy and if they were they would be signed already. I did see maybe a trade with Miami for Devante Parker wouldnt be to bad as I think we could get him for a 2nd or maybe a 3rd as they are loaded at receiver now and he will be 4th on their chart.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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TheKanataThrilla
3 years ago
I want us to draft WRs. Let's get Christian Watson, Alec Pierce. Take a late round chance on Tanner Conner and Britain Covey. We need cheap stars at the moment.
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