beast
3 years ago

Yes they do practice. And no this isnt some good news hes coming back. Having a damn near season ending back injury and being out so long means he will be rusty and slower than before. Anyone expecting him to return to form prior to injury is going to be disappointed.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


He doesn't have to be as good as before... he just has to be better than the guy they're placing on the bench for him to go into the game....

And considering that the top healthy backup would of been the Packers 6th OLBer (or worse) if everyone was healthy... a 80% Za'Darius might be better than 100% someone else.

Just need to keep guys healthy, Za'Darius can simply be a 3rd down pass rush specialist as he's comes along and tries to not reinjury his back in run defense.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Yes they do practice. And no this isnt some good news hes coming back. Having a damn near season ending back injury and being out so long means he will be rusty and slower than before. Anyone expecting him to return to form prior to injury is going to be disappointed.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



Yep. I have no doubt he's better player than the guy(s) he'll be taking snaps, but often times it's not how great of a player you are as you are great in the scheme and doing your job. Chemistry is huge in team sports.
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bboystyle
3 years ago

Yep. I have no doubt he's better player than the guy(s) he'll be taking snaps, but often times it's not how great of a player you are as you are great in the scheme and doing your job. Chemistry is huge in team sports.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I hope he does find some groove. Maybe have MLF ease him in a bit the first game.

Playing with a back injury in the frigid cold at full speed is a bad recipe.
nerdmann
3 years ago

Yes they do practice. And no this isnt some good news hes coming back. Having a damn near season ending back injury and being out so long means he will be rusty and slower than before. Anyone expecting him to return to form prior to injury is going to be disappointed.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



ZaDarius didn't have a leg injury like Bakhtiari. He should still have been able to do cardio on a stationary bike or something.
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earthquake
3 years ago
I have to imagine that if he plays, they feel good about both his back and his conditioning.

He doesn't have to be Z. Smith from 2019/2020 to have a positive impact. He just has to be better than Jonathan Garvin and Tipa Galeai. That's well within his powers if he's healthy enough to put on the pads. I would expect in his first game back he'll be used primarily to spell P. Smith and Gary, and then be worked in more in the second game if he holds up well.
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3 years ago

I have to imagine that if he plays, they feel good about both his back and his conditioning.

He doesn't have to be Z. Smith from 2019/2020 to have a positive impact. He just has to be better than Jonathan Garvin and Tipa Galeai. That's well within his powers if he's healthy enough to put on the pads. I would expect in his first game back he'll be used primarily to spell P. Smith and Gary, and then be worked in more in the second game if he holds up well.

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I thought he would be in on 3rd downs with Preston and Gary. Those 3 and Clark in the middle would be formidable.
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earthquake
3 years ago

I thought he would be in on 3rd downs with Preston and Gary. Those 3 and Clark in the middle would be formidable.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Yeah, it will be interesting to see if they get all three of those guys in for certain packages.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
After thinking more about this. Packers were able to implement Whitney Mercilus to their advantage. I gotta think they can do the same with Zadarius.
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beast
3 years ago

After thinking more about this. Packers were able to implement Whitney Mercilus to their advantage. I gotta think they can do the same with Zadarius.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Exactly! 3rd down pass rusher, for the most part is a 3rd down pass rusher, he's either ready to go or he's not... with some exceptions like maybe stunts, but generally all teams have the same stunt's it's just how often you call them and when you call them (if at all).

I thought he would be in on 3rd downs with Preston and Gary. Those 3 and Clark in the middle would be formidable.

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In preseason there was a ton of talk of getting all three in the field at the same time and during the season the Packers have shown some 3 OLB looks, though with Burks (surprisingly) as the third OLB, I assume because that formulation needs the threat of a guy potentially dropping into coverage or it was just the best healthy guy they had at the time.


But anyways, Gary lined up in the middle with DTs on each side of him, and Preston and Burks on the outside.

I believe the Packers have continued this at times but with 3 DTs on the interior and 2 OLBers outside simply because we didn't have the healthy OLB depth especially to keep the OLBers fresh.

I'm thinking the Packers start Z. Smith off like Mercilus, 3rd down pass rush specialist, as that's both a strength Z has over some others, and because in theory, I'm assuming run stopping would be worse on the back, which is what he's coming back from and we want to limited the potential of re-injurying that as much as possible.

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