all_about_da_packers
3 years ago
Sorry, double post.
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earthquake
3 years ago
Love might turn out to be great, terrible, or something in between. This game doesn't tell us much, other than he's not as good as Aaron Rodgers at this point in his career and didn't ball out after half a week to prepare against a team that was in the superbowl the last two years. If he starts next week and doesn't look any better, it might be time to be a little concerned - but even that is probably premature.

Love was a late 1st round pick, which is where QBs that need some seasoning go these days. With the revamped rookie contracts, teams don't wait around until the 3rd or 4th round to grab QBs they think can start anymore. So comparing where Love was drafted to where Rodgers was drafted is apples vs oranges. This is crucial point that seems forgotten whenever the topic comes up - a lot of teams passed on Rodgers because they had starting QBs and didn't want to pay huge money to a backup. Remember, this was before the Jamarcus Russel debacle.

As others have mentioned, he's more or less a rookie, having had no training camp or preseason in year one. It will probably take until year 3 to know what he's capable of, and maybe until year 4 or 5 to know what his ceiling will be - which was also the case with Rodgers.

And if he sucks? Ah well, 30 years of HOF QBs was a pretty good run, and we'll be looking forward to the Russian roulette that is trying to find a franchise QB - like half of the teams in the NFL seem to be doing every year. All the more reason to appreciate the good times while they're here/appreciate what we've had in the past.
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nerdmann
3 years ago

Rodgers fell because Mike McCarthy told the niners not to take Rodgers and to take Smith at #1. Rodgers actually did great in college and even gave USC a run for their money. Rodgers resume and talent in college is/was ten times better than Love.

Rodgers was not a project with potential, he was a projected first rounder and even #1 overall pick.

Love was a RAW talent project QB that would of been available in the late second round had it not been for the idiots running GB. His college resume is mediocre at best and so far he has looked exactly what i expected from him.


Again, its not about him failing to come out and ball, its about the little things that he didnt do correctly(or couldnt do that ANY NFL QB should do) that im so low on him.

I honestly dont expect much from him even later down his career here....

Everyone was saying how perfect MLF system was for a QB like Love because he schemes to get players open on short routes. Love failed at that throwing behind and low and even shovel passes were a joke...

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



Remember how Aaron held the ball up by his ear? Aaron never did shit on the field until McCarthy renovated him in year three.

Meanwhile, Love has appeared in one game in which he had to constantly throw from a horizontal position before he hit the ground with blitzers in his face. I mean relax people. It's one game, in which Patrick and Newman were turnstiles.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Whats your 40 time? lol

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



You want it in seconds or minutes. 😬😬 lol

I'm disappointed in how the outcome came and how Jordan Love looked, however, it's because I had unrealistic expectations for the performance. The kid was thrown into starter on Wednesday after the game plan was set for Aaron Rodgers and he hasn't had even one normal off-season. He's not Justin Herbert who got thrown into the starting position minutes before kickoff and has been lighting it up since. The scouting on Love was that he wasn't ready to be starter out of the gate and would need time to develop. At least, that is what I read.

I'm not as hopeful for the future with Love as I was 24 hours ago, but I'm also not ready to put a fork in him, yet. I mean, I remember how awful Rodgers was vs Ravens, vs Patriots before he showed us something in his THIRD year in the league coming in relief of Brett Favre vs Cowboys.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
Crazy how one is the darling of the NFL and the other is being drilled into a never will be in his first extended action in the NFL.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
True.

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earthquake
3 years ago

True.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



While I agree with the general sentiment, people gotta stop posting that Love vs Mahomes image. It wasn't the final stat line of the game and it was among Mahomes' worst games - the sixth worst of his career by passer rating. Dude has a 105.8 career passer rating, and even through a "bad" year in 2021 is sitting at 92.5. Mahomes is having one of those Aaron Rodgers "bad" years, you know the sort where they're still obviously a top 10 QB that most teams would trade for if they could.

That said it was a great effort from GB's defense, missing a number of key starters, to hold Mahomes to the production he had.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

While I agree with the general sentiment, people gotta stop posting that Love vs Mahomes image. It wasn't the final stat line of the game and it was among Mahomes' worst games - the sixth worst of his career by passer rating. Dude has a 105.8 career passer rating, and even through a "bad" year in 2021 is sitting at 92.5. Mahomes is having one of those Aaron Rodgers "bad" years, you know the sort where they're still obviously a top 10 QB that most teams would trade for if they could.

That said it was a great effort from GB's defense, missing a number of key starters, to hold Mahomes to the production he had.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



People should keep posting it because if people are going to say Jordan Love isn't going to be a good QB based off one game, then it's fitting this image gets plastered over and over. It's the same thing. Incomplete set of information.

We're in a wait and see deal with Jordan Love, much like we were with Aaron Rodgers his first three seasons. And even into his first full season as starter.
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earthquake
3 years ago

People should keep posting it because if people are going to say Jordan Love isn't going to be a good QB based off one game, then it's fitting this image gets plastered over and over. It's the same thing. Incomplete set of information.

We're in a wait and see deal with Jordan Love, much like we were with Aaron Rodgers his first three seasons. And even into his first full season as starter.
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I posted a few responses up.

But okay as long as we agree that "Jordan Love sucks" and "Joran Love is as good as Patrick Mahomes" are equally bad takes lol.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Yeah, that's pretty much what I posted a few responses up.

But okay as long as we agree that "Jordan Love sucks" and "Joran Love is as good as Patrick Mahomes" are equally bad takes lol.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



Oh hell yeah, both horrible takes. I simply feel we just don't know yet. He might have a very high ceiling or 4th quarter drives might be his ceiling. That being said, after watching pre-seasons with Aaron Rodgers, I said I didn't see him as someone who could win you games, but said he wouldn't lose you games. And well we know how that turned out. So, the hell do I know.
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