Isn't the Coach suppose to help a young QB?

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member Topic Starter

16 years ago

Not with playing but with getting the "Can't win a game when it matters" bug off his back.

Last night was the perfect opportunity. Good field position with the game winding down. Rodgers converts on the first set of downs. The Mike McCarthy takes the ball away from AR. In most situations I would not have a problem with three runs for a FG in that situation. But the team is not in a normal situation anymore.

McCarthy has to hear the crap, that Rodgers can't win it when it matters. Well the team is out of the playoffs, the score is tied, and and in a good range to give Rodgers the opportunity win it. Instead he calls three basically run only plays. Not even plays that give Rodgers the option to check into a pass dependent on the coverage.

This was the perfect situation to help your young QB get over this hurdle and McCarthy blew it with play calls.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

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kobe16
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16 years ago

you are absolutely right my friend. Aaron had the chance to start his own hype and make a statement game by leading green bay for a late touchdown but mike mccarthy was too conservative and let the bears d stuff us on three straight runs. Go for the win what have you got to lose, let aaron finally win a comeback game.

Fred
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16 years ago

AR (to use a phrase by digs) crapped down his own leg 3 or 4 times this year when trying to lead a comeback (several times with game ending interceptions).

Do you think that Mike McCarthy tried to save Aaron Rodgers from this fate again by trying to kick a gimme FG that didn't turn out to be a gimme?

Was Mike McCarthy protecting Aaron Rodgers from throwing another game ending pick?

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Rockmolder
Honored Member

16 years ago

Aaron Rodgers (to use a phrase by digs) crapped down his own leg 3 or 4 times this year when trying to lead a comeback (several times with game ending interceptions).

Do you think that Mike McCarthy tried to save Aaron Rodgers from this fate again by trying to kick a gimme FG that didn't turn out to be a gimme?

Was Mike McCarthy protecting Aaron Rodgers from throwing another game ending pick?

"Fred" wrote:

This was totally different. The 'crapped' plays you are talking about are mainly hail-mary type of passes with just 1 minute left in the entire half. Ok, they aren't good decisions, but that's something different than just managing the offense going down the field.

I think it was the right decision. Let Rodgers throw it and you get at least one incompletion I think, that puts the clock at 1 minute left instead of 20 seconds. I would've done the same thing, especially with Crosby as my kicker. He makes that one 9/10 times, but when the special teams let about 20 Bears players just jump over them, no one can make that kick.

brnt247
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16 years ago

Every single coach in the league and every single coach you could find would play it exactly like the Packers did yesterday. Didn't you see the Bears do the exact same thing in OT?

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Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

16 years ago

Every single coach in the league and every single coach you could find would play it exactly like the Packers did yesterday.

"brnt247" wrote:

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."--Mark Twain

The minority is sometimes right; the majority always wrong.--George Bernard Shaw

The majority of men meet with failure because of their lack of persistence in creating new plans to take the place of those which fail.--Napoleon Hill

Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion -- and who, therefore, in the next instant (when it is evident that the minority is the stronger) assume its opinion . . . while truth again reverts to a new minority.--Soren Kierkegaard

The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.--Marcus Aurelius

I think that's enough. :magnifyglass:

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member Topic Starter

16 years ago

Every single coach in the league and every single coach you could find would play it exactly like the Packers did yesterday. Didn't you see the Bears do the exact same thing in OT?

"brnt247" wrote:

Under normal circumstances, yes. But sometimes doing something like letting the QB win the game, can have much more benefit for the team than just getting the W.

Especially when earlier GB went for it on 4th in shorter field position.

IMO getting Rodgers the win would have great benefits next year and down the road and was worth the risk. Worst case is the D has to stop Chicago from driving the field.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

16 years ago

But sometimes doing something like letting the QB win the game, can have much more benefit for the team than just getting the W.

Especially when earlier GB went for it on 4th in shorter field position.

IMO getting Rodgers the win would have great benefits next year and down the road and was worth the risk. Worst case is the D has to stop Chicago from driving the field.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:

NormaL
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16 years ago

"Fred" wrote:

Roddy?

You want to finish your career here?
Favre: "Definitely. If in two years, say, they want to trade me, I'd probably walk away. Retire."

Fred
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16 years ago

#10

Every single coach in the league and every single coach you could find would play it exactly like the Packers did yesterday.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

"brnt247" wrote:

The "majority" of posters on this site believe in TT, MM, and AR.

:lol:

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