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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
Probably safe bet if Aaron Rodgers gets traded, Davante Adams won't be sticking around. I am not saying Adams will follow Rodgers because if it's the Broncos, they won't pay him $20 million a year when they have so much invested in the WR's they have already.

Edit, nevermind. He basically said as much. Bart Winkler ✔ @WinksThinks - Davante Adams on @TheHerd admits if Rodgers wasn’t in Green Bay it would “potentially” affect his free agency decision and he would “definitely have to do some extra thinking if my guy wasn’t here”. Not terribly surprising to hear

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beast
3 years ago

Probably safe bet if Aaron Rodgers gets traded, Davante Adams won't be sticking around. I am not saying Adams will follow Rodgers because if it's the Broncos, they won't pay him $20 million a year when they have so much invested in the WR's they have already.

Edit, nevermind. He basically said as much. Bart Winkler ✔ @WinksThinks - Davante Adams on @TheHerd admits if Rodgers wasn’t in Green Bay it would “potentially” affect his free agency decision and he would “definitely have to do some extra thinking if my guy wasn’t here”. Not terribly surprising to hear

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I'm still a bit shocked that WR Allen Robinson (whom didn't have a good QB with the Jags) supposedly had matching offers from the Bears and Packers (with Rodgers) and he choose the Bears... though in his defense, the Bears had a high pick and were possibly going to get the top QB... but still. He liked Andy Reid Chiefs offense and scheme Matt Nagy was bringing to the Bears. Anyways... my point being, I'm surprised more FAs don't target great QBs more... they usually follow the money first, weather/location second.

Yes, I've been absolutely shocked they hadn't extended Adams contract, then when the Rodgers stuff broke, I was like... oh... that's probably why. It might get interesting where does Adams sign next year? ... hell, I'm not sure we can afford to pay him, as I believe the Packers are more over the cap than any other team for 2022... and just pushed most of their big money contract's back. They'll probably have to release Preston Smith and Lowry's contracts just breaking even (unless there is a surprise jump in sales this season). And that's not counting draft picks and resigning some of the WRs.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

I'm still a bit shocked that WR Allen Robinson (whom didn't have a good QB with the Jags) supposedly had matching offers from the Bears and Packers (with Rodgers) and he choose the Bears... though in his defense, the Bears had a high pick and were possibly going to get the top QB... but still. He liked Andy Reid Chiefs offense and scheme Matt Nagy was bringing to the Bears. Anyways... my point being, I'm surprised more FAs don't target great QBs more... they usually follow the money first, weather/location second.

Yes, I've been absolutely shocked they hadn't extended Adams contract, then when the Rodgers stuff broke, I was like... oh... that's probably why. It might get interesting where does Adams sign next year? ... hell, I'm not sure we can afford to pay him, as I believe the Packers are more over the cap than any other team for 2022... and just pushed most of their big money contract's back. They'll probably have to release Preston Smith and Lowry's contracts just breaking even (unless there is a surprise jump in sales this season). And that's not counting draft picks and resigning some of the WRs.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Yeah, Packers are the worst. over $33 million in debt for 2022. Adams signs elsewhere, I believe that would go in favor of the Packers in compensatory pick for 2023. I would rather Adams, just pointing out a possible silver lining.

A lot can be done to make 2022 better because 2023 the Packers have over 40 under contract through that year and a projected $80 million below the cap.

https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1391822854467907586 

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beast
3 years ago
Yes there is $80 million available in 2023... but that's still bottom 25% of the league... and that's with the the exception of the 2021, 2022, 2023 draft picks, that with WRs or CBs signed, both Packers starting Safety and OLBers being free agents, as well as starting OL Jenkins, Patrick and Turner. Also Tonyan, Lewis and Sternberger would be free agents as well. Plus some DL like Keke, Lowry and Lancaster not signed as well.

So yeah, there is $80 million... but as far as starters currently signed there is just QB Rodgers, RB Jones, LT Bak, OL Meyers, OL Runyan, NT Clark, OLB Gary, ILB Barns, ILB Martin.... that's basically a rebuilding or reloading year right now with our cap being tight. And yes, more guys could become starters, but some of the draft picks will bust... usually more than half do.

2023 is also the year that the TV contract money comes in, but that's being split evenly between the teams, so really all players are going to be asking for a lot more.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
If Rodgers isn’t here, I can see Adams leaving.
If he has to be on a rebuilding team, he might as well go to a place where he can get rich.
As I doubt we could afford him.
Losing our QB AND star WR would mean a complete rebuild which could take years to get back to winning.
Our days of being spoiled might be over.

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nerdmann
3 years ago

If Rodgers isn’t here, I can see Adams leaving.
If he has to be on a rebuilding team, he might as well go to a place where he can get rich.
As I doubt we could afford him.
Losing our QB AND star WR would mean a complete rebuild which could take years to get back to winning.
Our days of being spoiled might be over.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I'd rather have guys who want to be here.

Same thing happened with Bert. Certain guys went along with Bert whever he changed the playcall or went out of his way to counteract the team. Ted had to clear those guys out.
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nerdmann
3 years ago
The offense is actually better when Adams is out. Prevents Aaron from forcing it to him too much.

Btw I do trust Matt and his system. There aren't going to be "down years." A down year for us will be 11-6.
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TheKanataThrilla (3h) : That was terrible.
TheKanataThrilla (3h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.
beast (4h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (4h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
beast (4h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing
Zero2Cool (5h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is
Zero2Cool (5h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true
beast (5h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management
wpr (7h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Mucky Tundra (15h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
beast (16h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years
Zero2Cool (22h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
packerfanoutwest (22h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it
beast (23h) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done
Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.
Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore
packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!
Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!
beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
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