gotarace
16 years ago

The defensive and special teams scores were awesome in the first half of the season. It is a good thing to have some big-time playmakers on defense, especially Woodson and Collins, and you might throw Tramon Williams in there as well. Those guys do give us that X factor so that if this defense could get its act together it could be really great.

"Greg C." wrote:


Agreed Greg..I think this wave of scoring from the defense has lead to our second half of the year falloff. It has lead our players on defense to play out of their assignments hawking the ball.
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longtimefan
16 years ago
and the D helped to single handly WIN the philly game and the washington game last year..

So whats your point?

I did the numbers on another thread a while back

last year total of 49 tds...had 3 from D and s/t take those away thats 46 tds...

322 points ....31 fg or 93 points...

415 points===

26 points per game on offense in 2007


This year so far

41 tds take away the 8 from D and s/t thats 33tds or 231 points..........

22 fg...66 points for total of 297 points..for an average of about

23 points on offense



So......3 points per game more last year...



Defense this year giving up 25 points per game



2007 gave up 18 points per game




Thats 7 more points per game the D is giving up this year

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16 years ago
Long i think you are forgetting the fumble return for a TD to make it 9 tds instead of 8 which if i remember drops it down. Hopefully we can score some more points coming up in the last 2 weeks.
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longtimefan
16 years ago

Long i think you are forgetting the fumble return for a TD to make it 9 tds instead of 8 which if i remember drops it down. Hopefully we can score some more points coming up in the last 2 weeks.

"dhazer" wrote:



okay missed one

42 total- 9 is 33*7=231

25 fg * 3 = 75

75+231 = 306

306/14 = 22 offense points per game

Defense

37 tds given up = 259 points

FG 23*3 = 69

69+259 = 328

328/14 = 23 a game
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16 years ago
Like i said i made this thread to try and look at a few bright spots this year. My grandmother taught me way back when i was a tiny grasshopper that when things go bad don't look at the negative look at the bright spot no matter how small it is and just remember that.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

I think this wave of scoring from the defense has lead to our second half of the year falloff. It has lead our players on defense to play out of their assignments hawking the ball.

"gotarace" wrote:



I've been saying this for weeks. I think the stats -- "league leaders in takeaways and defensive touchdowns" -- got to their heads, and they've gotten sloppy. They're more focused on strips and interceptions than hitting the shit out of people and slamming them into the turf. Not coincidentally, in my opinion, they haven't gotten an interceptions, strips, or takeaways in weeks.

I read an interesting article (I think on Advanced NFL Statistics ) that pointed out there is essentially NO correlation between the number of interceptions, fumble recoveries, and defensive TDs a defense snags and the actual quality of the defense. Sometimes terrible defenses lead the league in interceptions and scoring, while great defenses have few such gaudy statistics. And almost never does a team that leads the league in interceptions come anywhere close the following season. In fact, a team that leads the league in the first half of the season rarely leads the league in the second half. It's essentially a random phenomenon.
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kobe16
16 years ago
our defense has had some good games this year but there is no way we should have lost to carolina after scoring 31, to the texans who had a last second field goal, and the jags who drove down the field way to easily. If we would have won those games we'd be 8-6 right now heading into chicago. the defense lost those 3 games for us
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