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Publicly Known details are lacking, but supposedly NFL takes 2021 7th round draft pick away from the Vikings due to 2019 Practice Squad Player's contract breaking salary cap rules.

The Vikings have been disciplined by the league office for violating the salary cap.

Minnesota forfeits its seventh-round draft pick in the 2021 NFL draft, according to the Star-Tribune. The pick the Vikings lost is No. 242 overall.

The violation stems from a practice squad player’s contract in 2019. There’s no word on who the player was or why an infraction committed during the 2019 season is only coming to light now.

Three Vikings executives were fined $10,000 each, in addition to the penalty against the team.

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wpr
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A 7th round pick is nothing. It should have been a 4th.
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A 7th round pick is nothing. It should have been a 4th.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


I think it's hard to know, without a clue of what happened. I was immediately thinking it should should be higher than a 7th as well, until they said PS player.

Usually PS contracts aren't much, and did they purposely get around the rules, or an error?

Also, I honestly don't know, do PS contracts count against the Cap? I guess they do, or there wouldn't of been a problem, but I thought it was just the 53 man roster that counted against the cap.

But yes, if they broke the cap of the 53 man roster, it should be higher. For PS? I feel like I need more details.

Though, I'm always good with punishing the Vikings lol, make it a 1st rounder 😜


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I think it's hard to know, without a clue of what happened. I was immediately thinking it should should be higher than a 7th as well, until they said PS player.

Usually PS contracts aren't much, and did they purposely get around the rules, or an error?

Also, I honestly don't know, do PS contracts count against the Cap? I guess they do, or there wouldn't of been a problem, but I thought it was just the 53 man roster that counted against the cap.

But yes, if they broke the cap of the 53 man roster, it should be higher. For PS? I feel like I need more details.

Though, I'm always good with punishing the Vikings lol, make it a 1st rounder 😜

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The PS has to count against the cap in some manner or a team could stick a player there and pay him $500,000 when most of them get $12,000 a week.
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4 years ago
The Vikings should be disciplined for imitating a professional football team!
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The PS has to count against the cap in some manner or a team could stick a player there and pay him $500,000 when most of them get $12,000 a week.

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In during a normal year when PS players aren't allowed on the field during real games.... what's wrong with that?

Because that's also true for coaches, support staff, and really every single person that does NOT play on the field during game day.


They've updated their CBA but one of the older CBAs had a PS minimum wage, but there was no PS maximum wage and teams could pay PS players whatever, and some teams do pay PS minimum 53 man roster wages when they really like them or another team is trying to sign them away.

But as long as they're NOT allowed on the field on game days, what's wrong with paying as much as they want?
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In during a normal year when PS players aren't allowed on the field during real games.... what's wrong with that?

Because that's also true for coaches, support staff, and really every single person that does NOT play on the field during game day.


They've updated their CBA but one of the older CBAs had a PS minimum wage, but there was no PS maximum wage and teams could pay PS players whatever, and some teams do pay PS minimum 53 man roster wages when they really like them or another team is trying to sign them away.

But as long as they're NOT allowed on the field on game days, what's wrong with paying as much as they want?

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My guess is that at any point a player on the team could get hurt, and a PS player could get called up to the “real” team. Thus they then would be a part of the salary cap.
And the team could “cheat”, hiding the player that they are paying a lot to on the PS, intending all the while to bring him up to the team. Pay him a cool million for a week on the PS, then calling him up to the team on week 2 and paying him the league minimum.
Thus getting around the cap.
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My guess is that at any point a player on the team could get hurt, and a PS player could get called up to the “real” team. Thus they then would be a part of the salary cap.
And the team could “cheat”, hiding the player that they are paying a lot to on the PS, intending all the while to bring him up to the team. Pay him a cool million for a week on the PS, then calling him up to the team on week 2 and paying him the league minimum.
Thus getting around the cap.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


But that wouldn't get you around the cap, as a PS player, he's considered a FA and can sign on any teams 53 man roster at any time.

So I don't think that's against the rules.


It'd be interesting to find out exactly what they did in breaking the rules.

Maybe they had a small signing bonus on an UDFA and forgot to count it in the salary cap? And the player ended up being a PS player.
And teams do pay PS league 53 man roster minimum at times including the Packers.

And they might have down with the likes of Lazard, who they released and then IRed someone and then brought Lazard back to the 53 man roster, I believe for game 1 even.

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