beast
  • beast
  • Select Member Topic Starter
4 years ago
Publicly Known details are lacking, but supposedly NFL takes 2021 7th round draft pick away from the Vikings due to 2019 Practice Squad Player's contract breaking salary cap rules.

The Vikings have been disciplined by the league office for violating the salary cap.

Minnesota forfeits its seventh-round draft pick in the 2021 NFL draft, according to the Star-Tribune. The pick the Vikings lost is No. 242 overall.

The violation stems from a practice squad player’s contract in 2019. There’s no word on who the player was or why an infraction committed during the 2019 season is only coming to light now.

Three Vikings executives were fined $10,000 each, in addition to the penalty against the team.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com  wrote:


UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
4 years ago
A 7th round pick is nothing. It should have been a 4th.
UserPostedImage
beast
  • beast
  • Select Member Topic Starter
4 years ago

A 7th round pick is nothing. It should have been a 4th.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


I think it's hard to know, without a clue of what happened. I was immediately thinking it should should be higher than a 7th as well, until they said PS player.

Usually PS contracts aren't much, and did they purposely get around the rules, or an error?

Also, I honestly don't know, do PS contracts count against the Cap? I guess they do, or there wouldn't of been a problem, but I thought it was just the 53 man roster that counted against the cap.

But yes, if they broke the cap of the 53 man roster, it should be higher. For PS? I feel like I need more details.

Though, I'm always good with punishing the Vikings lol, make it a 1st rounder 😜


UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
4 years ago

I think it's hard to know, without a clue of what happened. I was immediately thinking it should should be higher than a 7th as well, until they said PS player.

Usually PS contracts aren't much, and did they purposely get around the rules, or an error?

Also, I honestly don't know, do PS contracts count against the Cap? I guess they do, or there wouldn't of been a problem, but I thought it was just the 53 man roster that counted against the cap.

But yes, if they broke the cap of the 53 man roster, it should be higher. For PS? I feel like I need more details.

Though, I'm always good with punishing the Vikings lol, make it a 1st rounder 😜

Originally Posted by: beast 



The PS has to count against the cap in some manner or a team could stick a player there and pay him $500,000 when most of them get $12,000 a week.
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
4 years ago
The Vikings should be disciplined for imitating a professional football team!
🤪😂
UserPostedImage
beast
  • beast
  • Select Member Topic Starter
4 years ago

The PS has to count against the cap in some manner or a team could stick a player there and pay him $500,000 when most of them get $12,000 a week.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



In during a normal year when PS players aren't allowed on the field during real games.... what's wrong with that?

Because that's also true for coaches, support staff, and really every single person that does NOT play on the field during game day.


They've updated their CBA but one of the older CBAs had a PS minimum wage, but there was no PS maximum wage and teams could pay PS players whatever, and some teams do pay PS minimum 53 man roster wages when they really like them or another team is trying to sign them away.

But as long as they're NOT allowed on the field on game days, what's wrong with paying as much as they want?
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
4 years ago

In during a normal year when PS players aren't allowed on the field during real games.... what's wrong with that?

Because that's also true for coaches, support staff, and really every single person that does NOT play on the field during game day.


They've updated their CBA but one of the older CBAs had a PS minimum wage, but there was no PS maximum wage and teams could pay PS players whatever, and some teams do pay PS minimum 53 man roster wages when they really like them or another team is trying to sign them away.

But as long as they're NOT allowed on the field on game days, what's wrong with paying as much as they want?

Originally Posted by: beast 



My guess is that at any point a player on the team could get hurt, and a PS player could get called up to the “real” team. Thus they then would be a part of the salary cap.
And the team could “cheat”, hiding the player that they are paying a lot to on the PS, intending all the while to bring him up to the team. Pay him a cool million for a week on the PS, then calling him up to the team on week 2 and paying him the league minimum.
Thus getting around the cap.
UserPostedImage
beast
  • beast
  • Select Member Topic Starter
4 years ago

My guess is that at any point a player on the team could get hurt, and a PS player could get called up to the “real” team. Thus they then would be a part of the salary cap.
And the team could “cheat”, hiding the player that they are paying a lot to on the PS, intending all the while to bring him up to the team. Pay him a cool million for a week on the PS, then calling him up to the team on week 2 and paying him the league minimum.
Thus getting around the cap.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


But that wouldn't get you around the cap, as a PS player, he's considered a FA and can sign on any teams 53 man roster at any time.

So I don't think that's against the rules.


It'd be interesting to find out exactly what they did in breaking the rules.

Maybe they had a small signing bonus on an UDFA and forgot to count it in the salary cap? And the player ended up being a PS player.
And teams do pay PS league 53 man roster minimum at times including the Packers.

And they might have down with the likes of Lazard, who they released and then IRed someone and then brought Lazard back to the 53 man roster, I believe for game 1 even.

UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
dfosterf (10h) : *analysis* gettin' old
dfosterf (11h) : One of the best analyisis I"ve ever watched at this time of an offseason
dfosterf (11h) : Andy Herman interviewed Warren Sharp on his Pack a day podcast
packerfanoutwest (10-Jul) : Us Padres fans love it....But it'll be a Dodgers/Yankees World Series
Zero2Cool (9-Jul) : Brewers sweep Dodgers. Awesome
Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : And James Flanigan is the grandson of Packers Super Bowl winner Jim Flanigan Sr.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : Jerome Bettis and Jim Flanigans sons as well!
Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Thomas Davis Jr is OLB, not WR. Oops.
Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Larry Fitzgeral and Thomas Davis sons too. WR's as well.
Mucky Tundra (5-Jul) : Kaydon Finley, son of Jermichael Finley, commits to Notre Dame
dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
17m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

6h / Community Welcome! / lijog

10-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-Jul / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

6-Jul / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.