Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Tim from Lancaster, PA
It looks like we are watching the changing of the guard in the AFC. Do you believe the NFL is in good hands?

The NFL has its finger on the pulse of America. It knows exactly what the American sports fan wants. That's what worries me. It disturbed me to see the Ravens trample the Titans' logo yesterday. What bothers me most is we delight in this crap. I am a product of the Lombardi generation. I am from a time when football was a noble endeavor. Now, it feels cheap. Taunting exists on nearly every play. Yes, the NFL is in good hands. Are we?

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I have to agree with Vic. I remember when people blasted the hell out of Jermichael Finley for doing his "First down Fin" every first down. Now we see players doing something similar on a routine basis.
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wpr
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4 years ago

I have to agree with Vic. I remember when people blasted the hell out of Jermichael Finley for doing his "First down Fin" every first down. Now we see players doing something similar on a routine basis.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So many players are classless these days. When I mention it I find out that I am a grumpy old man and I should shut up and let them have their fun.
*Sigh*
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TheKanataThrilla
4 years ago

So many players are classless these days. When I mention it I find out that I am a grumpy old man and I should shut up and let them have their fun.
*Sigh*

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I think that many of us have grown up with that "Act like you have been there before" mentality. Yes, it is great to celebrate sometimes. The celebrating of routine plays or when you are losing I just find wrong.

Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I think that many of us have grown up with that "Act like you have been there before" mentality. Yes, it is great to celebrate sometimes. The celebrating of routine plays or when you are losing I just find wrong.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



I dunno. When I see a DB celebrating when the WR dropped the pass, it confuses me. You didn't do anything. If you're cheering that the guy dropped it, doesn't that fall into the sissy pants taunting realm?

I'm still on board with Barry Sanders. Act like ya been there before and gonna be there again.
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beast
4 years ago
To answer the question directly, the NFL is in the hands of Roger Goodell, so no, it's not in good hands...

1) While Roger might be good for the bottom line, he's all about PR, which has resulted his desire and chase to get more vague rules which can be interpret different ways, so that the head ref and the NFL can always bad the Refs on the field, no matter how the rule is being implied, for better PR.

2) This has also lead to players being fined for good but very hard LEGAL hits that the announcers point out (especially on STs) while on the very exact same play, there can be a very hard illegal hit, that doesn't get mentioned by the announcers gets off free with no punishment.

3) Also due to PR, Goodell has attempted to bury things like Spy Gate and Bounty Gate, without ever letting it become public... he was unsuccessful with those, but what ones has he been successful with?

4) Also PR reasons, the NFL has told the Refs to stop calling penalty at the end of the game... this goes back before the fail mary game and the fail mary Ref will tell you, he did what the NFL asked of them, to not call a penalty at the end.... and NO ONE, NO ONE can prove to me that isn't exactly what happened at the end of the Saints/Rams game where the Saints got screwed because a Ref didn't throw a clear flag on a play that happened right in front of him...


I know this isn't what was meant, but I felt the question had to be answered this way by someone. Now moving back to the way you meant.
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beast
4 years ago
Honestly I don't mind the celebrations, as long as they're not too over the top... especially like clapping or something, that's just being happy at the results, weather they did something or not, and probably happened back in the day too, they just probably didn't show it as much.

I do agree that sometimes I feel like, Com'on save it for when you at least get a first down... or something. And it depends who it is... if it's Adams celebrating every catch, that will be a bit over the top... of it's WR Taylor celebrating every catch as he barely gets in offense, that's a bit different.


Purposely standing on their logo is over the top, and too much, but Ravens were sorta doing payback from the regular season when the Titans messed with their logo.


And Steelers WR dancing on everyone logo, after it became a big thing was a bit much...


But in game, I like some reactions... I think it's more of a how big was the play and how long the reaction goes for.
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4 years ago

Honestly I don't mind the celebrations, as long as they're not too over the top... especially like clapping or something, that's just being happy at the results, weather they did something or not, and probably happened back in the day too, they just probably didn't show it as much.

Originally Posted by: beast 



No so much. A pat on the back or a handshake were about as far as it went on the field/sidelines. In the locker room after a game was over (and won) perhaps a little more jovial.


But in game, I like some reactions... I think it's more of a how big was the play and how long the reaction goes for.

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Get off my lawn you young whippersnapper.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Honestly I don't mind the celebrations, as long as they're not too over the top... especially like clapping or something, that's just being happy at the results, weather they did something or not, and probably happened back in the day too, they just probably didn't show it as much.

Originally Posted by: beast 


I've watched a lot of games from the 60's, 70's and 80's ... didn't really notice it much. And that's probably because you could get your ass smashed without getting fined and/or ejected.

You can't do the Deacon slap anymore because someone might get a precious headache. You can't closeline anyone because they might not be able to play next week. A god damn bunch of flowers out there!

Check out some games from the 60's and 70's and you'll see gloriousness like this.





And this kind of stuff I'm thinking we can do without, but I do like seeing people enjoying themselves.

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Cheesey
4 years ago
I think celebrations go way overboard nowadays. Like was already said, a WR drops a pass, and the DB celebrates like HE made a big play.
Or an “average” first down.

Yes, if it’s a game changing or sealing play, I can understand it.
But a WR who looks back at a trailing DB, showboating, I don’t like that.

And like WPR said.......
GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
🤪😂😂😂
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