beast
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4 years ago
I think the Packers best defensive weapon right now (besides control the clock on offense) is showing whatever you got to show, to get them to pass the ball...

Just load the box like the Vikings did against us, and dare them to do anything but run it up against the defensive front... yeah see this formation, you can pass it, go ahead, go for it , just don't run it lol
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all_about_da_packers
4 years ago
Their best weapon on D, you ask?

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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Their best weapon on D, you ask?

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Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



No chance in hell. I'm still pissed off at his fairy bump on Kamara's long reception TD. That's embarrassing. How do you let anyone see you ever try that? That's the kind of thing you do when you're horsing around with your 7 year old daughter for crying out loud.
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4 years ago
That would be Mr. Rashan Gary. He's bad to the bone.

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all_about_da_packers
4 years ago

No chance in hell. I'm still pissed off at his fairy bump on Kamara's long reception TD. That's embarrassing. How do you let anyone see you ever try that? That's the kind of thing you do when you're horsing around with your 7 year old daughter for crying out loud.

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A few rebutting thoughts:
1. That play (and a bad one at that, for sure) shouldn't have gotten to the point JA had to try the tackle. But I'm curious to see the A22 tape to see whether Jaire ran all the way from the other side (i.e., put himself in position to make a play he never really should have been in on) or was fighting through blockers and just leapt to try something. When a player like Kamara gets a full head of steam, it's next to impossible to target his legs and dive all while you yourself are running full steam and trying to avoid blockers. I'm willing to forgive him on that play since it really shouldn't have come to JA making the stop.
2. As the neareast defender, Jaire was targeted twice and allowed 1 rec for -2 yards. That's the body of work for the whole game - 61 defensive snaps - and is "Revis Island" levels of impressive. This dude has the ability to literally shut down his side of the field. I honestly don't know any other CB in the game you could currently say the same thing about.
3. He "dropped" another catch at the end, but I'm of the view that he created an opportunity to get an INT with his skillset and off-field study/preparation that others wouldn't have had. Good defensive players can make plays, but special defensive players (Charles Woodson, for example) can create chances to make plays that shouldn't be there. Jaire may be the closest thing to Woodson we've seen.

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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

A few rebutting thoughts:
1. That play (and a bad one at that, for sure) shouldn't have gotten to the point JA had to try the tackle. But I'm curious to see the A22 tape to see whether Jaire ran all the way from the other side (i.e., put himself in position to make a play he never really should have been in on) or was fighting through blockers and just leapt to try something. When a player like Kamara gets a full head of steam, it's next to impossible to target his legs and dive all while you yourself are running full steam and trying to avoid blockers. I'm willing to forgive him on that play since it really shouldn't have come to JA making the stop.
2. As the neareast defender, Jaire was targeted twice and allowed 1 rec for -2 yards. That's the body of work for the whole game - 61 defensive snaps - and is "Revis Island" levels of impressive. This dude has the ability to literally shut down his side of the field. I honestly don't know any other CB in the game you could currently say the same thing about.
3. He "dropped" another catch at the end, but I'm of the view that he created an opportunity to get an INT with his skillset and off-field study/preparation that others wouldn't have had. Good defensive players can make plays, but special defensive players (Charles Woodson, for example) can create chances to make plays that shouldn't be there. Jaire may be the closest thing to Woodson we've seen.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk on why I'd gladly have Jaire's babies, despite the limitations of biological anatomy.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



1. That's a complete garbage rebuttal, lol. But seriously, you have 11 on the field. If the play comes you, you make the play regardless if the other 10 should have or if you hustled your ass off just to get there. This wasn't the first time I've seen this from 23 and I know he can do better because I've seen it.
2. This stat would mean something if the Saints weren't throwing more than half, if not most passes barely beyond the line of scrimmage. I love Jaire as a coverage guy though and have no knocks on him in coverage at all.
3. He's on defense for a reason. Not catching a pass isn't something I'm gonna kill him for.

I like Jaire a lot and he's physical. Which is why it pisses me off when I see him throw a bump shoulder into someone. He isn't Deion Sanders. If he was, I'd shrug it off, but when you know, when you have witnessed a guy lay someone out and then you see the shoulder bump shit? Yeah, that pisses me off.

I just don't think we have a defensive weapon on this team. Sometimes I think Amos (watch the All 22, he doe shit). Sometimes I think Za'Darius. In my opinion, we don't have a clear cut best defensive weapon and I think that's probably a good thing cuz no one knows where the punishment is coming from. 😂
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yooperfan
4 years ago

That would be Mr. Rashan Gary. He's bad to the bone.

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Originally Posted by: wpr 


Anybody know what Gary's snap count was against the Saints?
I only recall getting two glimpses of him on the field.
Did he have any stats?
Just wondering!

Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Anybody know what Gary's snap count was against the Saints?
I only recall getting two glimpses of him on the field.
Did he have any stats?
Just wondering!

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



His ass should have been on a milk carton. Only time I noticed him was when he was limping off the field.
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Cheesey
4 years ago

His ass should have been on a milk carton. Only time I noticed him was when he was limping off the field.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Oh!.........SNAP!!!!!😂
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wpr
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4 years ago

Anybody know what Gary's snap count was against the Saints?
I only recall getting two glimpses of him on the field.
Did he have any stats?
Just wondering!

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Only 18. That's 30%.
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