2020 Brian Gutekunst's 53 cheat sheet right here

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

Brian is still kind of green in the General Manager role, so I've decided to provide another cheat sheet for him.

Offense (26)
QB [list=1]

Aaron Rodgers

Tim Boyle

Jordan Love[/list]

RB [list=1]

Aaron Jones

AJ Dillon

Jamaal Williams

Dexter Williams[/list]

WR [list=1]

Davante Adams

Allen Lazard

Marquez Valdes-Scantling

Equanimeous St. Brown

Reggie Begelton

Tyler Ervin[/list]

FB [list=1]

Josiah Deguara (TE)[/list]

TE [list=1]

Marcedes Lewis

Jace Sternberge

Robert Tonyan[/list]

OT [list=1]

David Bakhtiari [*]Billy Turner [*]Yosh Nijman[/list]

OG [list=1][*]Elgton Jenkins [*]Lane Taylor [*]Jon Runyan [*]Alex Light[/list]C [list=1][*]Corey Linsley [*]Jake Hanson[/list]Defense (24)DL [list=1][*]Kenny Clark [*]Montravius Adams [*]Dean Lowry [*]Kingsley Keke [*]Tyler Lancaster[/list]LB [list=1][*]Za'Darius Smith [*]Preston Smith [*]Christian Kirskey [*]Kamal Martin [*]Rashan Gary [*]Ty Summers [*]Tim Williams [*]Jonathan Garvin [*]Oren Burks[/list]CB [list=1][*]Jaire Alexander [*]Kevin King [*]Josh Jackson [*]Chandon Sullivan [*]Ka'dar Hollman[/list]S [list=1][*]Darnell Savage [*]Adrian Amos [*]Raven Greene [*]Vernon Scott [*]Will Redmond[/list]Special Teams (3)[list=1][*]K Mason Crosby [*]JK Scott [*]Hunter Bradley[/list]DISCLAIMER: Normally, my struggle is cutting down to 53. This time I had trouble finding 53. 😑

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beast
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4 years ago

Brian is still kind of green in the General Manager role, so I've decided to

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Oh your so kind, bless your heart ❤️

DISCLAIMER: Normally, my struggle is cutting down to 53. This time I had trouble finding 53. 😑

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah, I was shocked how I had 25 guys on defense with just one round of cuts, didn't have to make another change, it was strange.

Looks like 92.45% of our mock 53 man roster agree with each other, or 49 of 53, with the difference between our 53 mock drafts being

Zero2Cool
[list=1]

OT Yosh Nijman

OG Alex Light

WR Reggie Begelton

RB Dexter Williams[/list]

Beast[list=1]

OT Rick Wagner

OC Lucas Patrick

WR Jake Kumerow

CB Stanford Samuels III[/list]

Thoughts/Questions[list=1]

Zero2Cool, did OT Rick Wagner get traded or released in your cheat sheet for Gutekunst?

I think they very well could keep a backup OT (which Light has been working as the 2nd team LT) over either IOL Lucas Patrick or Jake Hanson.

I just think having both Patrick and Hanson would help losing Linsley in FA next off-season, where none of these bubble guys would help if they lose Bak (could Veldheer be signed after they cut to 53?)

Also maybe they surprise and only go with 8 OL if they really want RB Dexter Williams or FB John Lovettt.

WR Jake Kumerow is a guy to they could release, but I think he's currently in the lead of the bubble WRs, as there have been almost no sustained hype of what the other WRs were doing. Reggie Begelton got early hype, but sounds like it didn't transfer to the field. WR Malik Taylor has flashed here and there. Then recently Darrius Shepherd.

But if they do release Kumerow, I'm currently thinking more 5 WRs and keeping RB Dexter Williams or FB John Lovettt.

[*]I think almost all NFL teams are normally keeping 6 CBs unless they're horrible, which you might make a case for, but I think they'll keep 6, if nothing else, they can sign Tramon Williams or Prince Amukamara, which will be better than our 6th guy, or just go look for another STer.[/list]

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

Oh your so kind, bless your heart ❤️

Originally Posted by: beast

Hey, what can I say? I'm a generous fella!

I tried to break down the four pieces I think you outlined.

Jake Kumerow
I think without the preseason, the end of the line is 2020 for Jake Kumerow. I kind of went with someone I thought could provide more upside (Reggie Begelton) and might contribute on special teams coverage.

Rick Wagner
The emergence of Lane Taylor has me thinking he's gonna be locked in at G and they are going to kick Billy Turner to RT and with the plethora of TE's we have, he'll get "chip help" from a TE. I think releasing Wagner saves us money and I would consider him a candidate to be re-signed after Week 1 to avoid the full salary. If that's how that even works, which I could be wrong.

Alex Light
I feel Light filled in at T at some point and surprised us.

Stanford Samuels III
I'm not familiar with him. I actually haven't heard anything about him. I also (for some reason) feel Will Redmond can kind of CB/S.

beast
Select Member

4 years ago

Looks like releasing or trading Wagner seems to lose cap space over two years according to spotrac (yes you can gain some cap this year, but you lose more than you gained next year)
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/ricky-wagner-12450/#

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast

Shut up. My plan is without a flaw!!!! (and apparently without any merit whatsoever, lol)

wpr
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4 years ago

All in all pretty decent list. I have a hard time imagining Begelton making the team. I guess I don't have enough respect for the CFL. I went for Malik Turner as my wild card. But I guess it's all about the same.

As you note Deguara is a TE so why stick him in as a FB? Pick a lane.

I like you picking Nijman. I came close to doing so too. Just not enough information for me.

Like Beast points out, Wagner dude.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

Originally Posted by: wpr

I think FB and TE are very much interchangeable in this offense. It's not like I put Deguara at CB and said he's a TE.

I'm only basing my prediction off the few things I've read. I haven't read much so even if it turns out to be 100%, it was completely whack.

wpr
Preferred Member

4 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

It's probably semantics. A FB will line up in the backfield most of the time. A TE lines up in many positions. Tight on the line next to the OT, split out in the slot, occasionally wide out in addition on the wing in the H Back position. Only occasionally will he be in the backfield.

My guess is he is going to be lined up in a variety of places over the course of the season thus a TE.

In the long run if this is the biggest argument we have it's not much to worry about.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

Vikings want to restructure Riley Reiff contract. Riley Reiff telling teammates he's potentially going to be cut. He doesn't want to restructure so this next comment is probably without any merit. Maybe he gets cut, maybe the Packers sign him for a one year friendly deal? Then they get rid of Rick Wagner (which Mike Clemmons just said there's rumors it may happen ... I'm thinking he just read my 53 projection to be honest).

beast
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4 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

They clearly over paid on Riley Reiff, that being said, they're talking about replacing him with a guy that's been on the team for over 4 years...

If they were willing to make that downgrade, they should of done it last year to save $10 million.

I mean I think they need to get some more cap space, and Reiff is the clearest contact to do it, but they both could be screwing each other if they can't get an agreement completed. And so they traded a 2nd and 5th round pick to get a DE just so they had to lose their starting LT to pay for everyone.

Against the Vikings put in Clark, Gary and the Smith Bros and tell them to go wreck that sh!t! They might live in the backfield.

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