Smokey
3 years ago
The Covid-19 Pandemic is not (R) or (D). The virus does not distinguish between male or female. It has been proven that it spreads by touch or by airborne moisture droplets that are expelled by people carrying/infected by the virus. Medical recourses are being stressed to their maximum as caregivers are going above and beyond the call of duty. Yes vaccines have arrived and are being distributed, but that process will require many months to accomplish.

We still need to protect ourselves and our families/neighbors from this horrible virus. Is it really so much to ask that mask be worn in public and risk is lowered lowered with (6 ft.) social distancing. The vaccines are our light at the end of the tunnel, but they do not magically make gathering in groups safe once more.

Right now a new, more contagious strain, has arrived around the world. It is no worse or better than the strain we've been fighting, however it is a more aggressive spreader. Use common sense and protect yourself and others. No one likes the temporary measures being taken to protect us, and too many are suffering as a result. Let's not allow political affiliations to affect keeping ourselves safe.
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all_about_da_packers
3 years ago

The Covid-19 Pandemic is not (R) or (D). The virus does not distinguish between male or female. It has been proven that it spreads by touch or by airborne moisture droplets that are expelled by people carrying/infected by the virus. Medical recourses are being stressed to their maximum as caregivers are going above and beyond the call of duty. Yes vaccines have arrived and are being distributed, but that process will require many months to accomplish.

We still need to protect ourselves and our families/neighbors from this horrible virus. Is it really so much to ask that mask be worn in public and risk is lowered lowered with (6 ft.) social distancing. The vaccines are our light at the end of the tunnel, but they do not magically make gathering in groups safe once more.

Right now a new, more contagious strain, has arrived around the world. It is no worse or better than the strain we've been fighting, however it is a more aggressive spreader. Use common sense and protect yourself and others. No one likes the temporary measures being taken to protect us, and too many are suffering as a result. Let's not allow political affiliations to affect keeping ourselves safe.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Let me preface this by saying I don't agree with the views of KRK (and, frankly, have no time to call out his worse than 'bad' legal takes, less than basic understanding of racism (and the irony of a white man expounding on the topic), and not-so-subtle calls for violence).

That said, his post actually raises a valid point and I don't see how your post disproves it. If studies are suggesting that asymptomatic transmission occurs far less than originally feared, it becomes fair to question why exactly masks, social distancing and aggressive lockdowns are necessary - especially when millions of Americans are facing financial ruin.

Add that to evidence that COVID-19 transmission is far less likely to occur outdoors, then it is important to ask if aggressive strategies are necessary because they possibly don't help reducing the risk of transmission.

The issue isn't that the virus indiscriminately targets people. It's that the initial understanding transmission of COV-SARS-2 strain appears to have been wrong, and this requires a recalibration of how exactly to prevent its transmission so that the economic devastation isn't occuring.

And this isn't a politically driven viewpoint; as a racial minority I know of many people that live paycheck-to-paycheck and/or support extended family members (often abroad) - the financial downturn is literally horrific domestically and abroad (particularly given America is an economic driver in ways many people may not be able to understand if they aren't a minority or don't have overseas relatives relying on a breadwinner in America). The financial impact of aggressive lockdowns needs to be questioned if scientific studies (both peer-reviewed and with an empirical basis) are suggesting such aggressiveness may not result in any meaningful reduction of the risk of transmission.

To be clear, this is not to diminish the surges that are occurring or the huge strain on medical professionals and hospital workers; the emphasis should be on reviewing how to prevent or manage such outbreaks and recrafting a strategy to limit transmission in light of emerging evidence that risk of transmission outdoors or among asymptomatic carriers of the COV-SARS-2 strain is much lower than originally thought/feared. At the end of the day, a "better safe than sorry" strategy becomes problematic when "safe" = financial ruin and no statistically significant impact on reducing virus transmission.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
Yes, there is racism.
And just as many minority people that are racists. Why does that seem to be ignored all the time?
I remember when I was younger, seeing black people wearing “proud to be black” and “black power” T-shirts. Yet if I had worn a “proud to be white” or “white power” shirt, I would have immediately been labeled a racist and KKK member.

If it’s wrong for one it should be wrong for all.
My ancestors never owned slaves, and in fact fought to end slavery.

As long as the “race card” is thrown out constantly, it loses any value.

I’m not proud or ashamed of the color of my skin. I had nothing to do with how I was born. And my Dad worked his ass off to provide for us.
Nothing was handed to him.
He taught me to hold myself responsible for my own actions.
He said to me “if you obey the law, you never have to be looking over your shoulder, worried about getting caught”. If people lived by words like that, the crime rate would disappear.
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all_about_da_packers
3 years ago
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Getting back to topic at hand: KRK's article he posted, while indicating obvious bias in the title (i.e. "Wuhan virus"), does actually do a decent job of summarizing the study results since I've read those studies referenced. Kudos to the person who wrote it, because it doesn't really mislead in summarizing the studies it cites - which is a rarity.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
Why is pointing out where the virus came from bias?
Didn’t we call one flu “the Asian flu?”
I guess you can’t dare to point out where a disease comes from, or how the leaders of said place didn’t immediately warn the world of its dangers.
“Said place” should shoulder the responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people all over the world. Had they acted responsibly, maybe it could have been stopped from spreading world wide.
Shame on me for pointing that out.
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all_about_da_packers
3 years ago

Shame on me for pointing that out.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Not once did I say that; please don't put words in my mouth. "Wuhan virus" is used by republican, if not Trump-leaning, outlets. Scientific studies use COVID-19, or more commonly, reference the strain causing COVID-19. Neither of the studies referenced in the article labeled it the "Wuhan virus", as that is not the medical or even popular nomenclature when referring to COVID-19. Whether it should be is an entirely different can of worms, and something I don't really have interest in commenting on.

It's obvious the article, if not the website it was pulled from, is designed to appeal to a particular type of political view. Hence my reference of the title indicating bias. I'm not shaming anyone.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
HOME COVID TEST

1. Open a can of beer. Smell it.
2. If you can smell it, drink it.
3. If you can smell and taste it, you don’t have covid.

I did this test a dozen times last night, and all were negative.

This morning I woke up, had a bad headache and am not feeling so good.
I think I’m coming down with something!!! Im really scared!
I better do the test again tonight!!!
🤪😂
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Let me preface this by saying I don't agree with the views of KRK (and, frankly, have no time to call out his worse than 'bad' legal takes, less than basic understanding of racism (and the irony of a white man expounding on the topic), and not-so-subtle calls for violence).

That said, his post actually raises a valid point and I don't see how your post disproves it. If studies are suggesting that asymptomatic transmission occurs far less than originally feared, it becomes fair to question why exactly masks, social distancing and aggressive lockdowns are necessary - especially when millions of Americans are facing financial ruin.

Add that to evidence that COVID-19 transmission is far less likely to occur outdoors, then it is important to ask if aggressive strategies are necessary because they possibly don't help reducing the risk of transmission.

The issue isn't that the virus indiscriminately targets people. It's that the initial understanding transmission of COV-SARS-2 strain appears to have been wrong, and this requires a recalibration of how exactly to prevent its transmission so that the economic devastation isn't occuring.

And this isn't a politically driven viewpoint; as a racial minority I know of many people that live paycheck-to-paycheck and/or support extended family members (often abroad) - the financial downturn is literally horrific domestically and abroad (particularly given America is an economic driver in ways many people may not be able to understand if they aren't a minority or don't have overseas relatives relying on a breadwinner in America). The financial impact of aggressive lockdowns needs to be questioned if scientific studies (both peer-reviewed and with an empirical basis) are suggesting such aggressiveness may not result in any meaningful reduction of the risk of transmission.

To be clear, this is not to diminish the surges that are occurring or the huge strain on medical professionals and hospital workers; the emphasis should be on reviewing how to prevent or manage such outbreaks and recrafting a strategy to limit transmission in light of emerging evidence that risk of transmission outdoors or among asymptomatic carriers of the COV-SARS-2 strain is much lower than originally thought/feared. At the end of the day, a "better safe than sorry" strategy becomes problematic when "safe" = financial ruin and no statistically significant impact on reducing virus transmission.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 


Really damn good post. Really good, thank you.


Not once did I say that; please don't put words in my mouth. "Wuhan virus" is used by republican, if not Trump-leaning, outlets. Scientific studies use COVID-19, or more commonly, reference the strain causing COVID-19. Neither of the studies referenced in the article labeled it the "Wuhan virus", as that is not the medical or even popular nomenclature when referring to COVID-19. Whether it should be is an entirely different can of worms, and something I don't really have interest in commenting on.

It's obvious the article, if not the website it was pulled from, is designed to appeal to a particular type of political view. Hence my reference of the title indicating bias. I'm not shaming anyone.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 


For me, it's really annoying when people label phrases to a political party. When it comes to such labels, I'm probably the most clueless because I just take it for face value. I don't try to figure out "gosh, is this Democratic or Republican?" and then decide if I should agree/disagree. I know no one on this website would do such things because we all without bias.

You said it's obvious where the article was pulled from. How the hell do you figure that cuz I haven't a clue. What's wrong with calling it Wuhan Virus? Didn't it originate in Wuhan? Does this have some negative connotation that I'm (surprise) clueless on?
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Cheesey
3 years ago
For some people, EVERYTHING has to be about race. I don’t think they realize actually how racist it makes them appear.
The virus came from China. And to acknowledge that is just facing reality. It would be racist to call it the “ch~~k” disease .
THAT would be wrong and racist.
I just hope and pray that we get to put all this disease crap behind us this year.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

For some people, EVERYTHING has to be about race. I don’t think they realize actually how racist it makes them appear.
The virus came from China. And to acknowledge that is just facing reality. It would be racist to call it the “ch~~k” disease .
THAT would be wrong and racist.
I just hope and pray that we get to put all this disease crap behind us this year.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Nope. The pandemic is here to stay. In May when people were saying this is the new normal. I balked and said nope. I was wrong. Look at the advertising and everything else. People have adapted to this and are investing in it now. The battle is over. Sanity has been lost.
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