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5 years ago

I agree! I haven't listened to this one either, but I generally find when I do get surprised and I do listen, normally it's just them actually answering the questions they were asked honestly in their opinion.

Also note, that in one of the articles, it almost sounded like it was fairly brief time talking about this, so I'm assuming very little of the conversation was this, just this is being blown up as being more interesting part to Packers fans.

Also note, (at least in my opinion) nothing he said was wrong...

He feels his value is more than the Packers offered (lots of employees feel that way about their employers, even in the NFL).

He doesn't feel the Packers value ILBers as much as other teams (I think I've said in the past, that I'm not sure the ILBer role in this defense is as valuable or as important as ILBers in other schemes, where as CB and DL are more important).

He was asked to let the edge rushers be the aggressive playmakers and clean up after them, which I don't think many will have a problem with that, it just sucks that he got less chances to actually be a playmaker himself, but you got to make decisions on scheme and he played his role.

This last part is the most interesting part, not because anything is wrong with it, but an insight into the scheme.

I'm not positive what it means, but I'm thinking it means the edge rushers would given options to do what they thought was best, and whatever they didn't do, Martinez was asked to do the opposite.

So if Z stayed on the outside, Martinez held the run gap on the inside, and if he crashed inside, Martinez had to get outside run gap.

Not bad to give your smart playmakers options, though if Martinez role is simply to react and get their fast, someone with more speed would be nice. But I would this that would also really help the Safeties that are trying to play LB as the ILBers had very little depth.

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I am no expert on NFL defenses but I think it is a rather common approach. We have all seen edge rushers jumping inside while the QB is calling off his signals. Sometimes it is a predetermined move. Sometimes it is something he sees in the offensive formation. We have seen the ILBer have the DT or NT move to the next gap over. Every time someone moves there needs to be a counterbalance move by someone (typically the ILBer) at the next level or there will be a gap for the offense to exploit. It's all another way the ILBer must clean up.
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5 years ago
It’s possible what you guys are saying is true, that he was just answering questions.
Taking things out of context is normal for sports “reporters”.

Also, sometimes players that leave feel they are worth more then the team does. Look at Greg Jennings as an example. He took swipes at the team, and ended up looking like a jerk. I had no idea he was like that until he was gone.
And look what he did after he was with other teams. NOTHING. His overblown impression of how “great” he was, blew up in his (and his sister’s) face.
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