3 Players To Watch After The Bye

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

CheeseheadTV wrote:

I don't know about the 3rd one, but I thought first two showed being able to add something that others haven't last game.

1) TE Jace Sternberger
2) S Ibraheim Campbell
3) LB Rashan Gary

Sternberger looked like he might be the Packers best H-back option, and LaFleur (like his mentor Shannan likes to use H-backs).

Campbell looked like he was our clearly best coverage LB / physical S option since S Greene went down.

While Gary has great potential, I'm not sure if they going to be resting the Smiths more or finding ways to get him on the field more.

My thought for a 3rd is at WR... either Lazard or MVS... Lazard because he's getting more snaps, and has shown very good body control with hands. MVS because LaFleur talked about using him differently once he got healthy again, which made me think using him as a 3rd WR speed option, as the Falcons Super Bowl team used Taylor Gabriel... which either got him one on ones or helped open up others.

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wpr
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5 years ago

I don't see Gary as being important for the final 6 games. He's somewhat of a luxury pick that they are willing to groom for the future. His limited playing time sort of proves that they are not in a rush to get him on the field for any significant amount of plays.

KRK
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5 years ago

WPR waxed:

Teams with our talent level can't afford to draft non-starters in the first round.

IMO, his limited playing time more than likely proves that he is not capable of playing at this level (at this point) and may not ever be...just like Jackson and Burks.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

gbguy20
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5 years ago

Which smith should we take off the field to give him more playing time?

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wpr
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5 years ago

WPR waxed:Teams with our talent level can't afford to draft non-starters in the first round.

IMO, his limited playing time more than likely proves that he is not capable of playing at this level (at this point) and may not ever be...just like Jackson and Burks.

Originally Posted by: KRK

Exactly how many 1st round players start in this league? I didn't look it up but it's probably less than half who play more than 40% of the snaps.

KRK
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5 years ago

GBG gasped:

Which smith should we take off the field to give him more playing time?

A. Either - rotating him in to give one of them the a few plays off earlier in the game keeps them fresher for the 4th quarter.

B. Neither - you can move D Smith inside, which is what happens when Gary does play.

Sorry, I'm just not buying that the Number 12 overall shouldn't be playing more.

WPR wondered:

Exactly how many 1st round players start in this league?

I believe all of them, up to Gary, start or have seen the majority of playing time, other than Williams, who had surgery:
Arizona Cardinals: Kyler Murray, QB Oklahoma
San Francisco 49ers: Nick Bosa, EDGE Ohio State
New York Jets: Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama
Oakland Raiders: Clelin Ferrell, EDGE Clemson
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Devin White, LB LSU
New York Giants: Daniel Jones, QB Duke
Jacksonville Jaguars: Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky
Detroit Lions: T.J. Hockenson, TE Iowa
Buffalo Bills: Ed Oliver, DL Houston
Pittsburgh Steelers (via trade with Broncos): Devin Bush, LB Michigan
Cincinnati Bengals: Jonah Williams, OL Alabama (out surgery)

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

Originally Posted by: KRK

Yeah that Aaron Rodgers guy was a total bust! I mean he had to sit behind Farce, what? 3 years! as Favre carried the team...

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

hardly an suitable comparison

One plays a position which can easily be rotated in, and often is.

The other, sans The 1970 Dallas Cowboys, is never rotated.

By the way, I’m still waiting for Burks and Jackson to see meaningful action in the field. They were developmental projects as well

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

hardly an suitable comparison

One plays a position which can easily be rotated in, and often is.

Originally Posted by: KRK

Hardly suitable for your point and perspective, but a good comparison for a guy with potential, who (unless injuries happen) has zero shot of being a starter his first couple of years.

And actually it's kind of shocked me this year, how little the two Smiths are rotating out, they're staying in that at a higher percentage than I would have expected... and Gary, isn't doing some of the coverage stuff that Fackrell and Preston get asked to do. But year he could rotate in as the large edge pass rusher role.

By the way, I’m still waiting for Burks and Jackson to see meaningful action in the field. They were developmental projects as well

Originally Posted by: KRK

Yeah, I think you'll be waiting a LONG time for them...

I wasn't really a fan of the Burks selection from the start... (great athlete for his size, but he always looked less physically than some Safeties to me).

And Jackson was a boom or bust gamble... which right now looks like he's gonna bust, at least with man coverage.... he wasn't that experienced and all of his experience was in zone. I was surprised a man coverage team took that gamble so high.

Then again, Gary also one of those boom or bust great athletes.

isocleas2
Member

5 years ago

#10

In defense of Gary of all the teams that drafted ahead of the Packers last year there are only 1 or 2 of them that will make the playoffs (49ers, Bills). Its easier to give your rooks playing time when you're not in win now mode like the Packers are.

Also the Smiths + Fackrell are legit vet pass rushers, expecting a rook to take snaps from them this early might be a bit premature.

I do agree with Burks being a (failed) project and to a degree Jackson as well, although I'd consider Jackson more of a boom/bust value pick considering how much hype he had as a 1st round talent.

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