Barfarn
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4 years ago
Barfarn said: Go to Quoted Post
Oh yea, Jesus wouldn’t name-call either according to the Bible…hehe.


Nonstopdrivel said: Go to quoted Post

Oh, yeah?

Matthew 12:34 said:
You brood of vipers!

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[Face palm]

You say Jesus Name-called? That he engaged in abusive language or insults designed to mentally harm someone? He gave his only begotten son and then name-called? That is inconsistent.

If you’re going to assert a book tells you all you need to know about God, ya should make sure where in the hell it came from [because maybe it truly did come from hell]. Satin is a pretty sneaky bastard, it’d just be like him to toss a book into society and say, “this [slave-justifying, hating on gay, misogynistic, flat earth society] book is all ya need to know about God.”

Grasshopper, THINK!

Jesus never said “Viper;” because he didn’t effing speak English. I think Bible quoters often lose tract of this.

Matthew was written 40 years after Christ’s Ascension, the author’s accounts are all 2nd, 3rd 4th hand. So, here’s what ya got If the author is correct:

Jesus probably called the hypocritical fools of the day “akidneh” or “nachash,” not vipers. A MAN supposedly observed the event and told other MEN. Another MAN translated the oral stories told in Aramaic into Greek 40 years later. Then MEN assembled the Muratorian Fragment putting Matthew in the “Bible” along with Paul’s letters to the Alexandrians and Macedonians and the Gospel of Thomas. MEN made up the 1st and 2nd councils of Nicaea, keeping Matthew in the Bible. MEN translated the Greek into Latin, who made up the Council of Trent, who put the current Bible together in Latin. These MEN at Trent decided Matthew and 7 of Paul’s letters would be in the Bible, but his letter to the Macedonians and the Alexandrians were cut out, along with the Gospel of Thomas. Then Men translated the Latin into various forms of English over the years.

Biblical educational seminar aside, the greater point is that Jesus used this imaginary to inform the HYPOCRITES that they’re going to hell and supported his conclusion with a pile of facts. This was scholarly judgement not name-calling. Anyone believing the Bible would NEVER act like Trump…EVER!
Cheesey
4 years ago
Judge not, lest you be judged.
Anyway, Jesus got angry at the evil he saw. He overturned tables.
Whatever words he used, the meaning was there.
I bet he made it CLEAR what he thought of what was going on.
What difference is it what exact words he used?
That, in my view, is nit picking.
JMO of course.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Judge not, lest you be judged.
Anyway, Jesus got angry at the evil he saw. He overturned tables.
Whatever words he used, the meaning was there.
I bet he made it CLEAR what he thought of what was going on.
What difference is it what exact words he used?
That, in my view, is nit picking.
JMO of course.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Jesus did not get angry. One of the reasons his followers followed him was his poise and calm because it gave them confidence he had a plan worthy of following.

And he was not a Packers fan. He didn't like contact sports!! 😂
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Cheesey
4 years ago
He overturned tables. Was it anger? Or just frustration over what they were doing. Or just to make an exclamation point?
I’m not God, so I (and any other human) can’t say for certain.
But it’s obvious that he wasn’t happy.
He did things that us humans would be able to understand.
Over thinking what God/Jesus does, doesn’t work.
I think some people try to put what they think ahead of what God meant by what He said or did.
It’s like with salvation. God doesn’t put strings on it. It is free to us, no strings attached. You can’t “earn” it. Sin “earns” separation from God. Being a good person won’t get you to heaven.
Only by accepting Jesus death on the cross to cover our sins will get you there.
I always say that God’s gift to us is salvation. What we do with it shows Him our appreciation for Jesus sacrifice for us.
Again, Christians aren’t perfect, only forgiven.
End of sermon🤣
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

He overturned tables. Was it anger? Or just frustration over what they were doing. Or just to make an exclamation point?
I’m not God, so I (and any other human) can’t say for certain.
But it’s obvious that he wasn’t happy.
He did things that us humans would be able to understand.
Over thinking what God/Jesus does, doesn’t work.
I think some people try to put what they think ahead of what God meant by what He said or did.
It’s like with salvation. God doesn’t put strings on it. It is free to us, no strings attached. You can’t “earn” it. Sin “earns” separation from God. Being a good person won’t get you to heaven.
Only by accepting Jesus death on the cross to cover our sins will get you there.
I always say that God’s gift to us is salvation. What we do with it shows Him our appreciation for Jesus sacrifice for us.
Again, Christians aren’t perfect, only forgiven.
End of sermon🤣

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Over thinking what God/Jesus does, doesn't work, which I agree with and why I wonder how anyone can follow the New Testament at all. My belief from everything I've read and such is I put more stock in the Dead Sea Scrolls than any "King" version of the Bible.
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Cheesey
4 years ago
The most important thing in the Bible is to accept Jesus as savior. If a person wants to question God about the rest of it, you can then ask Him when you get to heaven.
Also, if you try to put the Bible in your own mind as an imperfect human, then a lot of it won’t make sense. We are finite humans trying to put an infinite God into a test tube.
There are some things that we won’t comprehend. That’s fine with me, as there are many things I don’t comprehend.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

The most important thing in the Bible is to accept Jesus as savior. If a person wants to question God about the rest of it, you can then ask Him when you get to heaven.
Also, if you try to put the Bible in your own mind as an imperfect human, then a lot of it won’t make sense. We are finite humans trying to put an infinite God into a test tube.
There are some things that we won’t comprehend. That’s fine with me, as there are many things I don’t comprehend.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Whoa, WHOA! Hold up... in your own mind as an imperfect human? That is pure nonsense poopiepants! I am far from imperfect!

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Cheesey
4 years ago

Whoa, WHOA! Hold up... in your own mind as an imperfect human? That is pure nonsense poopiepants! I am far from imperfect!

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



True....my bad!
If you are looking for a perfect example of imperfect, you fit it PERFECTLY!😂
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