Rockmolder
16 years ago

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/35519619.html

Green Bay - The Green Bay Packers' season might have been on the line Sunday when they broke the huddle with 3 minutes 45 seconds to go against the Carolina Panthers.

Tie game at 28-28.

First and goal at the Carolina 7-yard line.

A field goal wouldn't cut it. Not with the Packers' special teams and defense combining to surrender 79 points in the last seven-plus quarters.

Nothing short of a touchdown would make anyone feel safe.

After two runs, the ball was on the 1-yard line. Coach Mike McCarthy had two options: Put the ball in the hands of Aaron Rodgers, who had completed 12 straight passes for 128 yards and a touchdown and could make a play with his feet. He led all National Football League quarterbacks with four rushing touchdowns.

Or run the ball again, perhaps with fullback John Kuhn, who had converted all four of his third-and-1 carries to that point and had scored from 1 yard out against the New Orleans Saints.

With the season in the balance, McCarthy decided to hand the ball to Kuhn. He was stopped for no gain and the Packers settled for a field goal that ultimately proved not enough.

From the outside looking in, McCarthy's choice of play-calling suggested that in crunch time, McCarthy does not have ultimate confidence in Rodgers, his first-year starter. McCarthy's revelation on Monday that if he had gone for it on fourth down - something he considered - he would have called another running play seemed to support the notion that Rodgers might not have McCarthy's complete confidence.

On Wednesday, McCarthy revised the possible fourth-down play call. He said the play likely would have been a run-play option for Rodgers, depending on the defense.

But the point remained. McCarthy quickly tossed it aside.

"I don't think that's accurate. I don't think that's fair," McCarthy said. "I mean, look at the play calls . . . look at the two plays called before the first down. One of them was a shock play where we're attacking the end zone. They played coverage and he rolled out of the pocket and scrambled and (Julius) Peppers hit him so we got a first down on that.

"If you go and watch the film and you call my play-calling conservative, I wouldn't agree with that. I mean, we pushed the ball down the field. We're not a conservative offense so I don't even know why we're talking about it. The quarterback threw the ball 45 times in the game. I don't have confidence (in Rodgers)?"

McCarthy said he still didn't have any regrets about the call.

"There's a lot that goes into that decision," he said. "I did not go home kicking myself. Well, I actually stayed and went upstairs and watched it after the game was over because I can't sleep anyways. And when I saw their defense . . . and I saw the film, I'm still comfortable with the call."

McCarthy pointed out that the Panthers' two linebackers were lined up to defend the pass, some 5 yards from the line of scrimmage.

"How many passes do you have (in the playbook) from the 1?" McCarthy said. "I mean, you're better off throwing from the 5. You've got 11 yards (to pass the ball from the 1). From the 1 yard line, what are your options? Spread them out. OK. And what are they going to do? They're either going to go empty or coverage. If they go empty, now you're throwing a fly to who? One of your receivers on their defensive backs. Do you like the matchup? I mean, these are all the things . . . that's what we sit up there all (Saturday) night talking about. There were other options but there was really nothing."

Rodgers, who did not lobby for a pass in the sequence, said he had no doubt McCarthy believes in him in the tightest of spots.

"The way he called that last drive, I think, proves it," said Rodgers, whose 106.8 passer rating on third down is the league's third-best mark behind Drew Brees and Tony Romo, and has the most third-down touchdown passes (11)."Obviously I'd love to have the ball in my hands but I like all three of the calls. I do. I think everybody did."

So McCarthy and Rodgers both insist there is no dearth of confidence. But surely if Brett Favre was still at quarterback, there's little chance McCarthy would not allow him to make a play at a crucial point in the season.

"That had nothing to do with it. Absolutely not," McCarthy said. "(Favre) wants to throw the ball every time you get to goal-line offense because he feels he has all 22 guys compacted in and there's a reason for that.

"Aaron makes all the decisions that Favre ever made here and frankly we've even gone further. You could make the argument (Rodgers) does more."

The statistics back McCarthy.

Favre in 2007 passed more often in goal-to-go plays than Rodgers has this season - 54% to 43.4% - but McCarthy has relied on Rodgers more in the most crucial of circumstances. On third downs in goal-to-go plays, Rodgers has passed on nine of 10 plays. Favre was asked to pass on just four of seven.

That one time Rodgers was not asked to throw on third down? That was on Sunday when Kuhn got the carry.

"I don't hold back from Aaron," McCarthy said.



Always nice to see that he does indeed trust Rodgers.

The play-calling on the goalline seemed someone questionable to me aswell, but I guess Kuhn was on a hot-streak on short yardage.

I still think Rodgers should've gotten it though... but it's easy talking now.
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Prick, I was going to post this but my daughter took me away from the keyboard! 😛
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Rockmolder
16 years ago
Haha, just saw it while looking around NFL.com.

Feels good to actually post an article before you find it. 😛
bozz_2006
16 years ago
settle down girls.
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doddpower
16 years ago
Most the people around me at the game were saying "Kick it, kick it!" However, I was saying, "go for it! If we kick it, it'll be one long bomb to Steve Smith and we'll lose."

Perhaps I jinxed the team, but sure enough that's what happened.

Regardless of McCarthy's confidence in Rodger's, we should have gotten that ball in the end zone in 1-2 tries. Let alone three. That's a part of the green bay packers lately that I do not like. It seems we've improved a bit, but when you need one yard, we HAVE to be able to get it. We just simply get overpowered.

Gaaah, so frustrating!!
16 years ago
I'm not sure how many times i said this but i think the team missed grants presences on the goal line.
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IronMan
16 years ago

Most the people around me at the game were saying "Kick it, kick it!" However, I was saying, "go for it! If we kick it, it'll be one long bomb to Steve Smith and we'll lose."

Perhaps I jinxed the team, but sure enough that's what happened.

"doddpower" wrote:


Damn you!
millertime
16 years ago

I'm not sure how many times i said this but i think the team missed grants presences on the goal line.

"cheeseheads123" wrote:



since hes been so effective there this season....

wait! he hasn't

i'm pretty sure rodgers has more rushing TDs than grant. not good.
16 years ago

I'm not sure how many times i said this but i think the team missed grants presences on the goal line.

"millertime" wrote:



since hes been so effective there this season....

wait! he hasn't

i'm pretty sure rodgers has more rushing TDs than grant. not good.

"cheeseheads123" wrote:

Lately he has been.
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Rockmolder
16 years ago

I'm not sure how many times i said this but i think the team missed grants presences on the goal line.

"millertime" wrote:



since hes been so effective there this season....

wait! he hasn't

i'm pretty sure rodgers has more rushing TDs than grant. not good.

"cheeseheads123" wrote:



He hasn't been great, but in short-yardage situations he always seems to burst through for at least 2 yards or so.

Excactly what we need there... and what Jackson and Kuhn couldn't give us there.

I would've gone Jackson on 1st, 2nd Kuhn or a Draw play and 3rd let Rodgers throw it... 4th, IDK, I for one did not mind the 3 points there.

Our defense should've been able to stop the pass... especially since they where playing Delhomme. Yes, he had a good day, but he's not that much better than average... he even threw 4 picks against the Raiders.
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