Unpopular Opinion: We can't afford to resign David Baktiari, Mike Daniels and...

gbguy20
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

...over the next couple of years. The obvious decision is to let Mike walk. But David is the best LT in football and will be paid like it, and Kenny Clark will also require a massive contract two years from now. What are the odds we can afford to keep both of them? With Rodgers resigned and the huge salaries we will be paying our shiny new pass rushers, I think the odds are slim. It's the slowest part of the off season now, let's discuss.

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gbguy20
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6 years ago

There is always the argument that the both of them are two premier talents that you sacrifice whoever you have to in order to keep them.

Or the Gruden argument where you trade said premier talent for a kings ransom rather than paying them.

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Cheesey
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6 years ago

These are the kinds of decisions I wouldn’t make until absolutely necessary. Too much can happen. Talent slide, major injury, and so on.

Or even the possibility that a young guy just outshines the older, more expensive player.
Or some team offers you just too much to say no to.
Trading away your best guys with no one to replace them leads to disaster.

go.pack.go.
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6 years ago

These are the kinds of decisions I wouldn’t make until absolutely necessary. Too much can happen. Talent slide, major injury, and so on.

Or even the possibility that a young guy just outshines the older, more expensive player.
Or some team offers you just too much to say no to.
Trading away your best guys with no one to replace them leads to disaster.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Much like trading away Clinton Dix during the season last year. It left us with some of the worst safety play in the NFL lol. Sorry I had to.

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

Much like trading away Clinton Dix during the season last year. It left us with some of the worst safety play in the NFL lol. Sorry I had to.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

Still improvement over a dude who avoids tackling.

Daniels is gone. I think they just optioned Clark.

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earthquake
Member

6 years ago

Cutting Jimmy Graham with a post June 1st would free up 8m in cap space next year. Do we think he plays out the third year of his contract? Probably not if the rookie TE looks good.

Corey Linsley and Lane Taylor can be cut without massive dead cap hits in 2020 as well, so those guys might be on the hot seat if some of the younger OL develop.

Most of the other guys taking up high cap % are likely to be on the roster in 2020 it looks like.

How much cap space do they need to sign Baktiari, Daniels, and Clark? It looks like they've got 40m or so projected for 2020. That's plus maybe cutting a veteran or two probably gives them room to maneuver.

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TheKanataThrilla
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6 years ago

Well they are going to need to figure a way to pay both Clark and Bakhtiari as they really don't have anyone on the roster to replace what either of them brings. Perhaps they draft an OT next year to possibly replace Bakhtiari, but I would rather find a way to pay the man if we truly are in "win now" mode.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

Kenny Clark and David Bakhtiari will be re-signed. This is not a worry of mine. Our projected salary cap availability is over $60 million for 2021 and both are signed through 2020.

gbguy20
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Kenny Clark and David Bakhtiari will be re-signed. This is not a worry of mine. Our projected salary cap availability is over $60 million for 2021 and both are signed through 2020.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

How many contracts is that reflecting in 2021? Is that counting Clark's 5th year option we just picked up? Also every guy we resign between then and now will eat into that total. That's resigning our own guys, signing two entire draft classes plus some free agents. I don't think we will have nearly 60 by the time 2021 actually comes around.

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Zero2Cool
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6 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

For 2021, I'm not sure, I don't think it was a lot, maybe 20-30. And no, we won't have $60 million when we hit 2021, it'll be closer to half that or a third of it. Regardless, doesn't change that we will re-sign Bakhtiari. Unless he completely falls off and sucks ass, he is not going away.

That $64 million is using 2019's cap without any salary cap rollover from the 2020 season (probably won't have any).

We are going to be fine.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2020/ - 51 contracts (Bears have 12!)
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/ - 33 contracts
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2022/ - 14 contracts

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