Unpopular Opinion: We can't afford to resign David Baktiari, Mike Daniels and...

gbguy20
Veteran Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

...over the next couple of years. The obvious decision is to let Mike walk. But David is the best LT in football and will be paid like it, and Kenny Clark will also require a massive contract two years from now. What are the odds we can afford to keep both of them? With Rodgers resigned and the huge salaries we will be paying our shiny new pass rushers, I think the odds are slim. It's the slowest part of the off season now, let's discuss.

BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.

Wanna join the discussion?! Login to your PACKERSHOME forum account or Register a new forum account

gbguy20
Veteran Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

There is always the argument that the both of them are two premier talents that you sacrifice whoever you have to in order to keep them.

Or the Gruden argument where you trade said premier talent for a kings ransom rather than paying them.

BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

5 years ago

These are the kinds of decisions I wouldn’t make until absolutely necessary. Too much can happen. Talent slide, major injury, and so on.

Or even the possibility that a young guy just outshines the older, more expensive player.
Or some team offers you just too much to say no to.
Trading away your best guys with no one to replace them leads to disaster.

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

5 years ago

These are the kinds of decisions I wouldn’t make until absolutely necessary. Too much can happen. Talent slide, major injury, and so on.

Or even the possibility that a young guy just outshines the older, more expensive player.
Or some team offers you just too much to say no to.
Trading away your best guys with no one to replace them leads to disaster.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Much like trading away Clinton Dix during the season last year. It left us with some of the worst safety play in the NFL lol. Sorry I had to.

nerdmann
Premier Member

5 years ago

Much like trading away Clinton Dix during the season last year. It left us with some of the worst safety play in the NFL lol. Sorry I had to.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

Still improvement over a dude who avoids tackling.

Daniels is gone. I think they just optioned Clark.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

earthquake
Member

5 years ago

Cutting Jimmy Graham with a post June 1st would free up 8m in cap space next year. Do we think he plays out the third year of his contract? Probably not if the rookie TE looks good.

Corey Linsley and Lane Taylor can be cut without massive dead cap hits in 2020 as well, so those guys might be on the hot seat if some of the younger OL develop.

Most of the other guys taking up high cap % are likely to be on the roster in 2020 it looks like.

How much cap space do they need to sign Baktiari, Daniels, and Clark? It looks like they've got 40m or so projected for 2020. That's plus maybe cutting a veteran or two probably gives them room to maneuver.

blank

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

5 years ago

Well they are going to need to figure a way to pay both Clark and Bakhtiari as they really don't have anyone on the roster to replace what either of them brings. Perhaps they draft an OT next year to possibly replace Bakhtiari, but I would rather find a way to pay the man if we truly are in "win now" mode.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

Kenny Clark and David Bakhtiari will be re-signed. This is not a worry of mine. Our projected salary cap availability is over $60 million for 2021 and both are signed through 2020.

gbguy20
Veteran Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

Kenny Clark and David Bakhtiari will be re-signed. This is not a worry of mine. Our projected salary cap availability is over $60 million for 2021 and both are signed through 2020.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

How many contracts is that reflecting in 2021? Is that counting Clark's 5th year option we just picked up? Also every guy we resign between then and now will eat into that total. That's resigning our own guys, signing two entire draft classes plus some free agents. I don't think we will have nearly 60 by the time 2021 actually comes around.

BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

For 2021, I'm not sure, I don't think it was a lot, maybe 20-30. And no, we won't have $60 million when we hit 2021, it'll be closer to half that or a third of it. Regardless, doesn't change that we will re-sign Bakhtiari. Unless he completely falls off and sucks ass, he is not going away.

That $64 million is using 2019's cap without any salary cap rollover from the 2020 season (probably won't have any).

We are going to be fine.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2020/ - 51 contracts (Bears have 12!)
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/ - 33 contracts
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2022/ - 14 contracts

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

beast (53m) : Rip the Packers and getting the fans yelling and booing him

beast (53m) : Super competitive Bears fan and WWE "superstar" wrestler, Seth Rollins is supposed to announce a Bears pick and absolutely rip Packers

packerfanoutwest (14h) : Golden

beast (14h) : I want DT Derrick Harmon, Oregon

Mucky Tundra (15h) : And I can't be looking at my phone

Mucky Tundra (15h) : Hey I'm at work lol

Zero2Cool (17h) : btw, new site chat won't delete auto like

Zero2Cool (17h) : because everyone left like wimps

TheKanataThrilla (17h) : I am wondering if there is some type of autoclear when there isn't activity after a certain amount of time.

Mucky Tundra (17h) : What happened in the chat? Me and Zero posted a few things earlier and they're all gone

dfosterf (17h) : 10-15 min bs plus flyover

dfosterf (17h) : Yes

Zero2Cool (18h) : 7pm is when this kicks off????

buckeyepackfan (18h) : I told him. IT'S VONTE MACK , no matter what!

buckeyepackfan (18h) : He asked me who I thought The Browns were taking.

buckeyepackfan (18h) : 2. Would of had to wear Browns gear all week. NOPE I'll watch from my living room.

buckeyepackfan (18h) : He wanted to know if I would go. 2 things, would have had to fly from Detroit to Green Bay. Nope

buckeyepackfan (18h) : All expense paid trip to the draft. He will be in the Browns section. I told him to say hi to J-10VE for me 😃😃i

buckeyepackfan (18h) : For a call from my nephew, he won an sllexp

TheKanataThrilla (24-Apr) : Hope to see everyone in the Chat tonight!!! Go Pack Go!!!

TheKanataThrilla (24-Apr) : Jeanty would be a great pick-up for the Bears. I see Warren mocked to them as well who I think would be a great selection.

Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : GameDay Chat is open. Posting bits an tids in there.

Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : Excellent Source: The Bears have a deal in place to move up to 5 if Jeanty is there.

Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : Probably not until 10pm will be making pick

dfosterf (24-Apr) : But it is still not tonight. Lol

wpr (24-Apr) : Today is finally here.

dfosterf (24-Apr) : I should have put it in quotes

dfosterf (24-Apr) : It is the title of a you tube video.

dfosterf (24-Apr) : I'm not assuming anything

beast (24-Apr) : If they aren't doing it, then why are you assuming they know how to do it?

dfosterf (23-Apr) : Mackelvie

dfosterf (23-Apr) : Michael Macelvie- NFL teams know how to draft- Why don"t they?

dfosterf (23-Apr) : Youtube

Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : Packers were not selected for the 2025 Hall of Fame game.

dfosterf (23-Apr) : PFOW Out of our division would be a good thing imo

Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : Jameson Williams is done at 24 years old? What? He's a WR, not QB. I'm missing something here haha

wpr (23-Apr) : Tomorrow is almost here.

packerfanoutwest (23-Apr) : would you want him if Pack needed a back up qb?

packerfanoutwest (23-Apr) : JW is done......stick a fork in him

Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : You should. He goes to AFC that helps Packers.

packerfanoutwest (23-Apr) : don't care

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Lions shopping Jameson Williams?

packerfanoutwest (22-Apr) : Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst says Green Bay’s roster can win, even without adding anyone in the draft.

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : It's a poor design. New site has SignalR like our gameday chat

wpr (22-Apr) : Ah today's Shout was very quick to post.

wpr (22-Apr) : now 3

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Who? What?

beast (22-Apr) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?

Martha Careful (21-Apr) : meh

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24