2018 fifth-round pick Cole Madison may not return to Packers

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Losing a best friend is extremely tough. I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. Ever.

The Packers drafted guard Cole Madison in the fifth round of last year's draft, but he stepped away from the team before training camp to deal with what was described as a personal matter and did not return before the year was over. It's unclear if Madison will return in 2019. Michael Cohen of The [more]

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

6 years ago

I lost a nephew to suicide five years ago, nobody saw it coming.
After watching his parents and siblings struggle with his loss for years, I can imagine the struggles this young man is going through.
He needs time to deal with his own mental health before he can move on.
I wish him nothing but the best.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Just out of curiosity did this thing happen before or after we drafted him?

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Just out of curiosity did this thing happen before or after we drafted him?

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Tyler passed way in January of 2018. I don't know if it was revealed it was suicide or not. Maybe he learned it was suicide and that was too much? I really don't now, only speculating.

Smokey
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Many of us lose a friend or a family member too early in our lives. I've experienced both, it still hurts. Cole Madison deserves our empathy, but his reaction demonstrates that he is not mentally tough enough to play professional football. It is a shame, but none could have predicted this situation. Although GB looks to have lost a prime draft pick/player, these things happen in life and the best we can do is just move on.

Let us turn the page, and try again. 🤷

sschind
Senior Member

6 years ago

One of my best friends died in a 1 car accident but the circumstances surrounding it were very suspicious. The road he was on was one he had taken many many times when going to his favorite field herping (looking for snakes) spot but given where he started and where he said he was going it was miles out of the way. He had no business being on that road if he was really going to where he said he was going. He was Bi-polar it was investigated as a possible suicide and although it was officially ruled an accident I have always suspected it may have been a suicide. I'm sure that ruling saved me a lot of grief but I am not 100% convinced it wasn't a suicide.

The death of someone close is always hard but I think it is harder when it is a suicide. If Cole Madison is going through anything like that he deserves all the respect and consideration that anyone can give him. While it would be great for him to come to terms with it and come back to the game he apparently loved playing (if that is what he wants) it is not even something I am even going to consider as a possibility until I hear from him that he is ready.

sschind
Senior Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Sorry Smokey but I'm not sure how anything in football even remotely compares to losing a close friend to the effect that you can say that his reaction demonstrates he doesn't have the mental toughness to play football.

Smokey
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: sschind

I lost my father, my Grandfather, and a close Aunt within a 3 month period of time. In addition, I had only just started a new job working for the Federal Government. Attending the funerals nearly cost me a long sought after career job. The stress I was under was unbelievable. I put one foot in front the other and managed it all one day at a time. In the end I was required to provide proof of my Grandfather's Death or face being fired. So don't tell me that people can't work through hard situations.

Sitting around having a pity party is no way of dealing with ones problems. Cole Madison's pity party has only hurt Cole Madison.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

You know something is wrong when Smokey and I agree on something. This happened 3 months before the draft, he could have given teams a heads up his head wasn't in it anymore instead of screwing over whatever unsuspecting team drafted him.

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olds70supreme
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6 years ago

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dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

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