Zero2Cool
6 years ago
This could be part of the reason. What do you think?




UserPostedImage
musccy
6 years ago
I think we shouldn't waste our time interviewing him. His stints in Denver and Indy were awful, and name one coach from the Pat's tree that's been successful.
Rockmolder
6 years ago
I found this article a couple of days ago. Decided not to post it, but it fits here perfectly. 

...

By Tuesday afternoon, Robert and Jonathan Kraft, as well as Belichick, met with McDaniels again and made an aggressive pitch. McDaniels' conversation with Belichick had particular influence, a source said. Belichick wasn’t trying to talk McDaniels out of going, but he knew his offensive coordinator was having second thoughts.

Belichick offered to include McDaniels on more of the inner workings of the organization, from roster construction to financial/salary-cap related considerations. That was viewed as “extremely valuable” to McDaniels. Ownership also endorsed it as a way to extend Belichick’s influence on the organization in future years, although no assurances were given to McDaniels that he would succeed Belichick. McDaniels, who a source confirmed got a significant raise, has privately said in the past that he did not want to be the coach who succeeds Belichick. Although he since may have changed his mind, McDaniels knows Belichick, after five Super Bowl victories, will be a hard act to follow.

Beyond financial and professional stability, McDaniels also was thinking of his family. He wanted a long-term commitment from the Patriots so his four children, ages 12 to 3, would be able to attend the same schools over the next several years. The transient life of a coach doesn’t always make that possible.

...



...

One source said: “He’s always just insisted that everything be right, or he wasn’t going to leave.” It’s unclear what it was about the Colts' job that McDaniels ultimately decided wasn’t perfect, but he reached a point where he believed he was better off staying in New England.



I thought it to be strange that factors like his kids attending the same school are mentioned, yet, he's out there interviewing left and right now. There's a bit in there about lessonslearned.xls that sounds like complete BS to me, as well.

I think that he's shown that he can do it from a pure football and strategist perspective, but between the clashes in Denver, the backing out of that Colts job and his rather unique character, I don't know if he's the guy you want running a big part of the organization. As an OC, I'd give him the job without hestitation, as a head coach... I don't know.

EDIT: More on topic....



This is something that was surely talked about, right? In broad terms, how the organization is structured is even clear to us fans, so he easily could've known. If this really makes such a big difference to you as a coach, you mention it in your first interview and not back out at the very last minute.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I think we shouldn't waste our time interviewing him. His stints in Denver and Indy were awful, and name one coach from the Pat's tree that's been successful.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Pete Carroll didn't do so well with the Jets or Patriots, and he came back and got a team to two Super Bowl's, winning one of them and should have won the 2nd one. I don't think this is a reason to exclude someone.

I thought it to be strange that factors like his kids attending the same school are mentioned, yet, he's out there interviewing left and right now. There's a bit in there about lessonslearned.xls that sounds like complete BS to me, as well.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



The only interview he has granted is with the Packers. Unless I missed something, which is very possible.

Update: I don't know how trustworthy this source is.


Update2: Another source, but they could be piggy backing off one another.

UserPostedImage
Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

Belichick offered to include McDaniels on more of the inner workings of the organization, from roster construction to financial/salary-cap related considerations. That was viewed as “extremely valuable” to McDaniels.


Although the grammar and syntax of the second sentence are a bit ambiguous (who viewed it as valuable, the organization or McDaniels himself?), it sounds like McDaniels might have his sights set being a general manager someday.
UserPostedImage
musccy
6 years ago

Pete Carroll didn't do so well with the Jets or Patriots, and he came back and got a team to two Super Bowl's, winning one of them and should have won the 2nd one. I don't think this is a reason to exclude someone.



The only interview he has granted is with the Packers. Unless I missed something, which is very possible.

Update: I don't know how trustworthy this source is.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




I meant under Belichick, although I didn't specify that. O'Brien is the only one that comes to mind who has had success away from Boston in the past 20 years.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I meant under Belichick, although I didn't specify that. O'Brien is the only one that comes to mind who has had success away from Boston in the past 20 years.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



The same thing was said about Jeff Tedford QB's and Aaron Rodgers came along. I don't care about the past. I just want the best Head Coach we can get.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
6 years ago

Pete Carroll didn't do so well with the Jets or Patriots, and he came back and got a team to two Super Bowl's, winning one of them and should have won the 2nd one. I don't think this is a reason to exclude someone.



Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Agreed. You know the old saying "Past performance is no guarantee of future results." Just because other coaches fail in what was more than likely subpar situations doesn't mean a thing.
UserPostedImage
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
6 years ago
NSD said

it sounds like McDaniels might have his sights set being a general manager someday.


What an interesting thought. If so, our structure, which so many people are complainig about, might be a big advantage to landing him.
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Zero2Cool
6 years ago
I've always told those in my charge, a mistake is okay, just make sure to learn from it. Especially holds true with raising kids. Which is why I'm open to a coach who has failed before.


Josh McDaniels told Ohio.com during the week before Super Bowl LII in Minnesota last year.
“Before you leave and you do that, it’s hard to say that you know what he’s going through because you really don’t,” “I’m very happy for the experiences that I’ve gone through. A lot of the failings in my career have been some of the best teachers that I’ve had. I’ve really learned a lot from them. I think I’m a better coach, a better communicator, a lot of things because of the things that I haven’t done well.”


I admire the humility here.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : why did you remove the Playoff topic?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Tua’s old DC won a Super Bowl Year 1 with Tua’s former backup
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : it was always after the SB.....
beast (10-Feb) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago
beast (10-Feb) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
4h / Around The NFL / beast

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

15-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-Feb / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

10-Feb / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

10-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

9-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

7-Feb / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.