Zero2Cool
5 years ago
I've read from fans that the Packers better not draft a QB in 2019 draft. Better surround Aaron Rodgers with as much talent as possible because he's not getting any younger!!!!

2004 we finished 10 - 6 winning the division. Favre was 35 at the end of 2004 season.
2018 we finished 6 - 9 - 1 and whiffed on the playoffs. Rodgers was 35 at the end of 2018 season.

This would lead me to believe --relatively speaking-- we were in a better position to go for broke in 2005 than 2019.

Do we think Aaron is better at 35 than Brett was at 35?

If there's a QB for the future sitting there with that Saints pick, by all means, take him!!
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Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago
I couldn't agree more. I root every year for the Packers to draft players that cab legitimately replace their current starters, because that means they're getting better. My dream scenario would be to see Aaron Rodgers playing for another team next season—not because I have anything against Aaron Rodgers but because I would love for Green Bay to be so lucky in the draft that such a thing were possible. I'd be just as delighted if they took a talent who had a realistic shot at stealing Rodgers' job in two or three years. Wouldn't it be nice not to have to resign ourselves to a lost season every time our starting quarterback goes down for any length of time?
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Rockmolder
5 years ago
I think Rodgers is, indeed, better than Favre at that age, but that isn't really the big point.

First of all, Rodgers hasn't been contemplating retirement every single off-season. According to an NBC article thant I can't even open via the waybackmachine anymore, Brett started that BS as early as 2003.

Secondly, the chance that something like that will ever happen again is miniscule. I doubt there's even two QBs in this class who would qualify as 1st rounders on talent alone, let alone two QBs who could be the 1st overall pick like back in 2005.

Lastly... I think there stil might be some hope that we could develop Kizer into a viable starter. It was obvious to everyone but the Browns that he wouldn't be able to start in his first season. He has all the attributes, but was way too raw. In 2004 we had Craig Nall as our only serious candidate to groom...

That said, if Drew Lock does fall to our pick, I wouldn't mind taking a shot. I don't think it's a very good year for QBs the way it's looking now, so I imagine he'll be pushed up the boards, rather than down, but we do have to start thinking about the future real soon.
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I think Rodgers is, indeed, better than Favre at that age, but that isn't really the big point.

First of all, Rodgers hasn't been contemplating retirement every single off-season. According to an NBC article thant I can't even open via the waybackmachine anymore, Brett started that BS as early as 2003.

Secondly, the chance that something like that will ever happen again is miniscule. I doubt there's even two QBs in this class who would qualify as 1st rounders on talent alone, let alone two QBs who could be the 1st overall pick like back in 2005.

Lastly... I think there stil might be some hope that we could develop Kizer into a viable starter. It was obvious to everyone but the Browns that he wouldn't be able to start in his first season. He has all the attributes, but was way too raw. In 2004 we had Craig Nall as our only serious candidate to groom...

That said, if Drew Lock does fall to our pick, I wouldn't mind taking a shot. I don't think it's a very good year for QBs the way it's looking now, so I imagine he'll be pushed up the boards, rather than down, but we do have to start thinking about the future real soon.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Actually, excellent point on on the retirement limbo. It actually started after the Super Bowl win. He mentioned something about "what do I now, do I keep playing?". Personally, I try not to hold that against him, but I would rather my QB be more of the "This was great, I want this feeling against next year!" rather than opining outloud if he should keep playing.


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gbguy20
5 years ago
Rodgers worst years are better than favres better years. I'd say 3-4 of Favres years rival Rodgers average years. It was a different era and Brett Favre got rid of the fucking ball even if he'd want it back afterward.
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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
Here are the 3 qb's with a day 1 rating.

Grier, Will rSr West Virginia QB
Haskins, Dwayne rSo Ohio State QB
Lock, Drew Sr Missouri QB

Haskins must have just decided to go pro.
He showed up on the list today.

Still very young but he is amazingly calm under all circumstances .
Heard him compared to a young Ben Roethlisberger.
Big strong kid who can already make all the throws.
Can run when needed, but prefers to stay in the pocket.

I know next to nothing about the other 2.

I think it's time to start looking.

Haskins wouldn't be a wasted pick at the bottom of the 1st round.

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Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Haskins, Dwayne rSo Ohio State QB


Why? because he's the youngest of them three.
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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago

Haskins, Dwayne rSo Ohio State QB


Why? because he's the youngest of them three.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



As I said, he is the one I saw quite a bit of.
I know nothing about the other 2.

Just putting what info I know out here.


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beast
5 years ago

2005 Draft vs 2019 Draft -- What's the difference?

About 14 years! (someone had to say it!)

But I would say the big difference is Craig Nall (and Favre seem to almost actually retire one year) vs Kizer and Boyle... I don't know if Kizer or Boyle will develop, but I think they have more physical potential to possibility develop than Nall.

Also Rodgers (IMO) was clearly the best QB in that draft, fell to us at what, 24? So if the best QB falls to our draft pick in the last first, then yeah, maybe pull the trigger and see what happens.

But the need for other positions is the same....

That being said, I see more similar with the 2017 draft.... the Packers had Gute as GM, they seriously needed CBs and it was supposed to be a CB deep draft class.... in 2018 the Packers biggest need based on current contracts signed (or in this case being up) is the defensive front at edge rusher and DL and this draft class is said to be deep at DL and edge rusher, at least at the very top 45 picks or so.... so the draft class and Packers needs sorta worked together and I could see the Packers using two high draft picks on defensive front, just like they did last year with CB.
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