Zero2Cool
6 years ago

This brings up some interesting questions, such as...

  1. Who will choose the new head coach?
  2. (in time) Who will the new head coach be?
  3. Will Murphy return to the old structure of head coach under GM?


  4. Why Philbin and not Pettine?
  5. Are they interested in keeping Pettine?

  6. How will the players react to this? Will they be better or the same over the next couple of games?
  7. How will this effect the Packers potential draft pick? (currently 10th overall, and potential between the 5th and 14th overall)

  8. Who's the offensive play caller? Mike McCarthy always did it, and as Dolphin head coach, I thought he had Mike Sherman do it?

Originally Posted by: beast 


1- Brian G will have input on the Head Coach
2- No idea
3- I hope so
4- Pettine made it clear he didn't enjoy being a Head Coach
5- It'll probably be up to the Head Coach to decide
6- Randall Cobb had a chance to say no, McCarthy hasn't lost the locker room, instead, he side stepped the question.

7- We'll still stink, and get high pick
8- Hopefully Aaron Rodgers and lets see what he can do. If he bombs, maybe it'll humble him.
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6 years ago

While it sucks to see him turfed unceremoniously like this, the upside is it spares him a month of rumors and speculation and being forced to deal with someone (Rodgers) who doesn't want to work with him anymore. It also allows both him and the team to start putting out feelers for future employment (Mike for a new team and potential replacements get the rest of the season to show off their stuff as an "application" if you will)

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



I think you are right. As bad as it may seem to fire a coach midseason I think MM might agree that it was better now than later. Now he can pursue other options if he chooses and he can get a jump on the other candidates. He can research other teams, like Cleveland for example, he can study Mayfield and get to know him if that is a job he is interested in pursuing. Other teams can contact him without tampering charges or whatever if they so choose. All that and he just got an extra 4 weeks paid vacation.
beast
6 years ago


4- Pettine made it clear he didn't enjoy being a Head Coach

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Yeah, he hated the management side of things, but management is basically set up for the season, I thought he might be the interim head coach until they hired a long term one.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

(Rodgers) . . . doesn't want to work with him anymore.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


It should quickly become apparent if Rodgers was passive-aggressively trying to usher McCarthy out of Green Bay. If he suddenly returns to his pinpoint accuracy and starts lighting up the league, the cat will be out of the bag. I have to admit it will lower my respect for him as a person, though.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

It should quickly become apparent if Rodgers was passive-aggressively trying to usher McCarthy out of Green Bay. If he suddenly returns to his pinpoint accuracy and starts lighting up the league, the cat will be out of the bag. I have to admit it will lower my respect for him as a person, though.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



If Aaron Rodgers improves his passing accuracy, I won't assume the negative and surely won't lose respect for him as a person. There were times his accuracy was dead on. Once he gets into a good flow, he's throwing really good passes. He's just not getting into a good flow. That could be on him, or on the called plays.

Let's try to give benefit of doubt.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

It should quickly become apparent if Rodgers was passive-aggressively trying to usher McCarthy out of Green Bay. If he suddenly returns to his pinpoint accuracy and starts lighting up the league, the cat will be out of the bag. I have to admit it will lower my respect for him as a person, though.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



If the franchise puts Aaron in charge, the whole thing will be a huge disaster.
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rabidgopher04
6 years ago

There were times his accuracy was dead on. Once he gets into a good flow, he's throwing really good passes. He's just not getting into a good flow. That could be on him, or on the called plays.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Like that 95 yard touchdown drive today. THAT was the team we are used to seeing and EXPECT. They haven't played like that consistently for a few years.
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rabidgopher04
6 years ago
Saw this in the comments of an article on the firing:

When asked to comment on McCarthy's firing Aaron Rodgers said "I consider Coach McCarthy like family to me. And just like my real family the time has come for me to never speak to him again."



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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

If Aaron Rodgers improves his passing accuracy

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Obviously, I wasn't referring to a moderate improvement in Rodgers' passing accuracy. I'm talking about a return to elite status -- not just for Aaron Rodgers personally, but for the offense as a whole -- which neither Rodgers nor this offense have demonstrated in about three years. It will be impossible to know for certain if such improvement is due to a better scheme or to improvement in Rodgers' attitude, of course. If nothing else, it will be interesting to see how Rodgers' body language on the field changes with the new regime.
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beast
6 years ago

If Aaron Rodgers improves his passing accuracy, I won't assume the negative and surely won't lose respect for him as a person. There were times his accuracy was dead on. Once he gets into a good flow, he's throwing really good passes. He's just not getting into a good flow. That could be on him, or on the called plays.

Let's try to give benefit of doubt.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I never thought I'd say this... but at one point when Rodgers was struggling I had a flash back and sorta compared Aaron Rodgers to Mike Vick...

Vick was an odd QB in the respect, there were times when he could accuracy toss it 40 yards down the field, but couldn't accurately throw it 5-10 yards... which I noticed at one point, Rodgers seemed to struggle more with the shorter throws than the longer ones.


Vick later came out (and said what I thought) it was because he wasn't practicing (or giving a shit) about his footwork... he cared about the long passes, and would practice and pay attention to those...


I've wondered how much practicing and paying attention, Rodgers was doing with the short easy throws... I mean in theory they're the easy ones and need the less practicing ... but if you ignore them or get to a point that you're not used to doing them often (like fans have complained about Rodgers ignoring the check downs), then maybe you get rusty?
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