Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Yeah, I listened to it. It's EXACTLY what I would expect him to day.

Would I would NOT expect him to say is, "Yeah, I want to be top dog!." This would indicate that he would ditch the team that just hired him at the first opportunity, and also it would indicate that he might try to make a power play against Mike McCarthy, the guy who just hired him.

Either way, I hope he stays. I think they're gonna bring in Josh McDaniels. That would only be possible if the move was upwards, as he is already a coordinator, so they'd have to offer him top dog status.

If the Rooney Rule is in place, they should interview my man Edgar Bennett. Dude knows first hand what's going down with this team, because Mike just scapegoated him last year. I also would like them to interview Holmgren. No way Holmgren takes any kind of shit from Aaron Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



No, we don't need to keep former Packers players and/or staff around on the new staff. It should be a new staff.

If you listened to the press conference, what part about him not liking being detached from the players, and missing out on the teaching aspect which is what he loves the most did not resonate with you?

Why do we love Mike Pettine anyway? Are we happy with the performance of the defense suddenly? I remember hearing many of you whining about "I thought we got rid of Dom" and now it's lets make Pettine the HC? Or hope Pettine stays as DC under new HC?


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gbguy20
6 years ago
If we interview Edgar it better just be because of the stupid fucking Rooney rule
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nerdmann
6 years ago

No, we don't need to keep former Packers players and/or staff around on the new staff. It should be a new staff.

If you listened to the press conference, what part about him not liking being detached from the players, and missing out on the teaching aspect which is what he loves the most did not resonate with you?

Why do we love Mike Pettine anyway? Are we happy with the performance of the defense suddenly? I remember hearing many of you whining about "I thought we got rid of Dom" and now it's lets make Pettine the HC? Or hope Pettine stays as DC under new HC?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I've been pro-Pettine the entire time. Even when his D gets lit up, they don't have "miscommunication" issues. These guys are "more than the sum of their parts." I like what I see.

Plus, he can scheme guys to the QB.
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dyeah_gb
6 years ago

No, we don't need to keep former Packers players and/or staff around on the new staff. It should be a new staff.

If you listened to the press conference, what part about him not liking being detached from the players, and missing out on the teaching aspect which is what he loves the most did not resonate with you?

Why do we love Mike Pettine anyway? Are we happy with the performance of the defense suddenly? I remember hearing many of you whining about "I thought we got rid of Dom" and now it's lets make Pettine the HC? Or hope Pettine stays as DC under new HC?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I just think it would be unfair to the new DC and OC to get fired after one year with this mess. Pettin looks like he at least tried to improve the D. Offense is more complicated as I don't know how much of a role Philbin played in this disaster vs MM and AR.
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steveishere
6 years ago
If this team had an offensive coordinator that called plays I think Mike would be strongly considering replacing him but he seems to have no intention of replacing himself as the offensive guy it just comes off to me as he doesn't really care that much about being head coach and really just wants to coach an offense. If we brought in a legit offensive coordinator and a new offense I'd be ok with McCarthy staying as Head Coach even though he's been pretty crap at situational decisions the last few seasons but he's apparently blind to the fact that his OC + his QB aren't working well anymore and he doesn't have a fix for it.

When it comes down to someone having to go between HOF QB and an OC it's an easy decision. Though none of this even accounts for the fact that if anything in the article can be believed then McCarthy is losing the locker room as well not just AR.
dyeah_gb
6 years ago

If this team had an offensive coordinator that called plays I think Mike would be strongly considering replacing him but he seems to have no intention of replacing himself as the offensive guy it just comes off to me as he doesn't really care that much about being head coach and really just wants to coach an offense. If we brought in a legit offensive coordinator and a new offense I'd be ok with McCarthy staying as Head Coach even though he's been pretty crap at situational decisions the last few seasons but he's apparently blind to the fact that his OC + his QB aren't working well anymore and he doesn't have a fix for it.

When it comes down to someone having to go between HOF QB and an OC it's an easy decision. Though none of this even accounts for the fact that if anything in the article can be believed then McCarthy is losing the locker room as well not just AR.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Would not surprise me if MM is the offensive version of Wade Phillips for another team in 2020.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

offensive version of Wade Phillips

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 


What does this mean?
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nerdmann
6 years ago

If this team had an offensive coordinator that called plays I think Mike would be strongly considering replacing him but he seems to have no intention of replacing himself as the offensive guy it just comes off to me as he doesn't really care that much about being head coach and really just wants to coach an offense. If we brought in a legit offensive coordinator and a new offense I'd be ok with McCarthy staying as Head Coach even though he's been pretty crap at situational decisions the last few seasons but he's apparently blind to the fact that his OC + his QB aren't working well anymore and he doesn't have a fix for it.

When it comes down to someone having to go between HOF QB and an OC it's an easy decision. Though none of this even accounts for the fact that if anything in the article can be believed then McCarthy is losing the locker room as well not just AR.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



This HoF QB has what, one or two good years left in him? And by "good," I mean 4-6-1, as we are seeing today. Dude needs a major attitude adjustment, if he's going to be made useful again, but his skills are already on the decline.

Meanwhile, a coach would still be here for another decade, if he got it done.

Not saying to keep Mike, but if it came down to the two of them and I had to decide? You cannot keep a guy in your organization who is insubordinate. That's how you get players going rogue. Like Ty Montgomery. That's how you lose a locker room.
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gbguy20
6 years ago

What does this mean?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Wade Philips is not given HC jobs anymore, but he is always right there as the assistant HC because of his assistance. Goes in and is basically the defensive HC rather than your typical defensive coordinator. It's possible I made that all up
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