One of the most frustrating games I’ve seen· Page 4

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

Fair enough and I did notice you didn't add personal commentary. I appreciate the stats and the effort. I wonder what gbguy20 meant by his "unbelievable" comment however.

I have a sneaking suspicion however that many fans will use this as "proof" that Mike McCarthy does not run the ball and that is what prompted my cautionary post.

Originally Posted by: sschind

Like so much in life, without context a great many things don't really have meaning and are open for interpretation however you see fit.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#32

Is it in fact true that Aaron Rodgers can change any play from run to pass and vice-versa in the non-two minute offense?

My understanding is that McCarthy calls two plays each play. Rodgers can kill one and go to the other, but there's no guarantee both plays aren't both passes or both runs.

Thoughts?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#33

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Everything I've heard from Aaron and Mike is there's a play called and the kill means to do the opposite. If it is a run, kill means go to the pass. If it is a pass, kill means go to the run.

I believe in two minute offense, Aaron can call whatever he wants, whatever formation he wants. Mike dictates the personnel the other "minutes" of the game.

Porforis
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Thus why it's damned hard to straight up just blame McCarthy or blame Rodgers for a wide range of offensive issues. Pretty difficult to know which plays were called and whether the play that got ran was McCarthy's or Rodgers' idea. Or even if Rodgers switched it to the secondary and it stunk, whether it was a dumb call on Rodgers' part or two dumb plays from McCarthy.

Porforis
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#35

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I get that part, but if you line up in pass formation and kill, what's the running play? There has to be some sort of guidance from either McCarthy or Rodgers. If not, and if we default to the same run play every time we kill... Well, maybe that's why we have issues on third and short running.

KRK
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#36

We have multiple issues on third and short. First in foremost is that our guards don’t get any movement off the ball, not that our tackles our outstanding drive blockers either.

Second. We pack everybody in and miss a key block and are back gets tackled somewhere behind a line of scrimmage because there is no movement.

Other than that, we’re outstanding on third and short.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#37

Even if Mike McCarthy calls 2 plays, it’s obvious the defense pretty much knows from watching film what Mike McCarthy will do in any situation.
That’s why I would like to see Rodgers call all the plays. At this point, what is there to lose?
What they are doing is NOT working.

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

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