wpr
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6 years ago

Fair enough and I did notice you didn't add personal commentary. I appreciate the stats and the effort. I wonder what gbguy20 meant by his "unbelievable" comment however.

I have a sneaking suspicion however that many fans will use this as "proof" that Mike McCarthy does not run the ball and that is what prompted my cautionary post.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Like so much in life, without context a great many things don't really have meaning and are open for interpretation however you see fit.
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DoddPower
6 years ago
Is it in fact true that Aaron Rodgers can change any play from run to pass and vice-versa in the non-two minute offense?

My understanding is that McCarthy calls two plays each play. Rodgers can kill one and go to the other, but there's no guarantee both plays aren't both passes or both runs.

Thoughts?
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Is it in fact true that Aaron Rodgers can change any play from run to pass and vice-versa in the non-two minute offense?

My understanding is that McCarthy calls two plays each play. Rodgers can kill one and go to the other, but there's no guarantee both plays aren't both passes or both runs.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Everything I've heard from Aaron and Mike is there's a play called and the kill means to do the opposite. If it is a run, kill means go to the pass. If it is a pass, kill means go to the run.

I believe in two minute offense, Aaron can call whatever he wants, whatever formation he wants. Mike dictates the personnel the other "minutes" of the game.
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Porforis
6 years ago

Is it in fact true that Aaron Rodgers can change any play from run to pass and vice-versa in the non-two minute offense?

My understanding is that McCarthy calls two plays each play. Rodgers can kill one and go to the other, but there's no guarantee both plays aren't both passes or both runs.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Thus why it's damned hard to straight up just blame McCarthy or blame Rodgers for a wide range of offensive issues. Pretty difficult to know which plays were called and whether the play that got ran was McCarthy's or Rodgers' idea. Or even if Rodgers switched it to the secondary and it stunk, whether it was a dumb call on Rodgers' part or two dumb plays from McCarthy.
Porforis
6 years ago

Everything I've heard from Aaron and Mike is there's a play called and the kill means to do the opposite. If it is a run, kill means go to the pass. If it is a pass, kill means go to the run.

I believe in two minute offense, Aaron can call whatever he wants, whatever formation he wants. Mike dictates the personnel the other "minutes" of the game.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I get that part, but if you line up in pass formation and kill, what's the running play? There has to be some sort of guidance from either McCarthy or Rodgers. If not, and if we default to the same run play every time we kill... Well, maybe that's why we have issues on third and short running.
KRK
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6 years ago
We have multiple issues on third and short. First in foremost is that our guards don’t get any movement off the ball, not that our tackles our outstanding drive blockers either.

Second. We pack everybody in and miss a key block and are back gets tackled somewhere behind a line of scrimmage because there is no movement.

Other than that, we’re outstanding on third and short.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
Even if MM calls 2 plays, it’s obvious the defense pretty much knows from watching film what MM will do in any situation.
That’s why I would like to see Rodgers call all the plays. At this point, what is there to lose?
What they are doing is NOT working.
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