Zero2Cool
6 years ago
The comment about Donald Driver having a hurt ankle in the Super Bowl might be why we won was an interesting observation.

How have your feelings about letting Jordy Nelson go this off-season? They change? They get reinforced it was best, or was worse? You think the injuries mean we should have kept Jordy?

You might have seen that Jordy Nelson had six catches for 173 yards against the Miami Dolphins a couple weeks ago.

Or that last Sunday he caught a touchdown pass and two-point conversion in the Oakland Raiders’ first win of the season, over Cleveland.

That must mean that Green Bay Packers rookie general manager Brian Gutekunst blew it during the offseason when he cut one of the franchise’s more accomplished players of the past 20 years, right?

Think again.

Despite Nelson’s good start in 2018, it was time for the Packers to move on from an aging player (33 years old) who would have kept the promising Geronimo Allison on the sidelines. It’s the natural cycle of the NFL that GMs have to accept if their teams are to improve, and was equally true early in Nelson’s career, too. More on that later.

Gutekunst’s decision to move on from Nelson last March of course was unpopular among much of the Packers’ fan base. Nelson and Donald Driver were as beloved players as the franchise has produced in the last decade.

But it also meant parting with a decorated and productive receiver who even in decline was a favored target of Aaron Rodgers’. The two had developed an uncommon chemistry and over the years made an art form of the back-shoulder throw and improvised red-zone touchdown pass.

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2018/10/04/dougherty-why-releasing-jordy-nelson-still-right-move-packers/1525364002/ 


UserPostedImage
TheKanataThrilla
6 years ago
Not sure I buy the argument that keeping Jordy meant that Geronimo needed to sit on the sideline. We could have also let Cobb go. Sure Cobb had a great statistical first game, but other than that? I really don't think we are re-signing Cobb so basically you had 2 guys on their last year of a deal. I think that Jordy can play the slot role and outside, whereas I think Cobb can only play slot. To me if we just had a WR for this one season I would have gone with Jordy. His stats before the Rodgers injury last year were great. The decision to release him due to his inability to put up similar stats with Hundley I didn't get. Hundley seemed to see Davante as his safety blanket. The same way Aaron often leaned on Jordy.

I think the fact he got a decent deal and picked up so quickly indicates that teams did think he had a little more in the tank and would be an asset to their team.
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
6 years ago
It's always a difficult decision. As a fan I like to see the long time fan favorite ride off gracefully into the sunset with the music playing and the credits rolling. A few tears being shed as the lights in the auditorium slowly come up. It reality it doesn't work that way. One of the most difficult things for athletes to graps is they are not the player they once were. Even an old broke down veteran has abilities far above 99% of the people.

GB management probably could have handled the situation better. What player wants to be told he can stay but only if he will play for a fraction of his salary?

The cold reality is letting Jordy go was best for everyone.
UserPostedImage
Dulak
6 years ago

The comment about Donald Driver having a hurt ankle in the Super Bowl might be why we won was an interesting observation.

How have your feelings about letting Jordy Nelson go this off-season? They change? They get reinforced it was best, or was worse? You think the injuries mean we should have kept Jordy?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Still a BS decision - price of JN price for graham. Whose got my yards tds etc atm? ... Who had more chemistry with rodgers etc? ...

Im sure the numbers will stack up even more come game 16 ...


Zero2Cool
6 years ago
The decision I believe was difficult, but what was best for the Green Bay Packers. Releasing Jordy Nelson freed up the money we used to sign Jimmy Graham (who frees up the other WR just by his mere threat ala Jermichael Finley) and Mo Wilkerson, who is now on IR, but definitely the right move at the time.

I also still feel the Packers have more WR plans for Ty Montgomery and that also contributed to letting Jordy Nelson walk.

I believe most fans agree getting Graham and Wilkerson were worth losing Nelson or Cobb. I think most would have rather us keep Nelson and let Cobb go.


UserPostedImage
sschind
6 years ago
The only thing you may be able to take out a a good season by Jordy in Oakland is that he was not as washed up as some may have thought. What he he does in Oakland has absolutely bearing on what he may or may not have done in Green Bay. If we keep him maybe we are 4-0 and he is leading the league or maybe we are 0-4 and he has a torn ACL or maybe we are 2-1-1 and he has 17 receptions for 194 yards and a TD or maybe he is 19/289/2 (those are Cobb's and Allison's numbers)

Zero2Cool
6 years ago

The only thing you may be able to take out a a good season by Jordy in Oakland is that he was not as washed up as some may have thought. What he he does in Oakland has absolutely bearing on what he may or may not have done in Green Bay. If we keep him maybe we are 4-0 and he is leading the league or maybe we are 0-4 and he has a torn ACL or maybe we are 2-1-1 and he has 17 receptions for 194 yards and a TD or maybe he is 19/289/2 (those are Cobb's and Allison's numbers)

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Jordy has played in four games. When he was released, I suspected him to have a really good season on the heels of the motivation of being "let go".


4 receptions 23 yards - blah
2 receptions 30 yards - blah
6 receptions 173 yards 1 TD - fantastic!
5 receptions 48 yards 1 TD - solid game


Allison through four games
5 for 69 1 TD
6 for 64
2 for 76 1 TD
6 for 80

And with Allison instead of Jordy (I don't think it was that black/white but just for context here), we got Jimmy Graham and Mo Wilkerson with the saved cap space. And yes, there is an argument that Graham is helping Allison, which is kind of the point. Graham is making lesser WR gooder.

Update

UserPostedImage
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Just like James Jones, I don't think we have seen the last of Jordy in Green Bay.

Might be 2 years but Jordy will be released by Oakland and will be needed in Green Bay

Even at 34 Jordy will be an asset to The Packers.

We'll all find out this week what The Packers have in the young guys.

I predict most will be happy.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
steveishere
6 years ago

Still a BS decision - price of JN price for graham. Whose got my yards tds etc atm? ... Who had more chemistry with rodgers etc? ...

Im sure the numbers will stack up even more come game 16 ...


Originally Posted by: Dulak 



Graham is a TE his stats won't compare to Jordy. We are getting similar stats out of Jordy's replacement (Geronimo) for like 9m less dollars. The comparison isn't Jordy - Graham it's Jordy / Kendricks (or whoever TE1 would be) to Geronimo / Graham. We weren't keeping 3 WRs and 10m+ each and just signed Davante so between Jordy and Cobb they went with the younger guy. Maybe that will turn out to be the wrong decision but can't really blame em.
TheKanataThrilla
6 years ago
The fact is Jordy was willing to re-negotiate for less. Can we stop bringing up the $10M, he was willing to go lower. He wasn't willing to take the insulting offer we gave him.
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
Mucky Tundra (1-Apr) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : The method for measuring first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs to camera-based technology in 2025, the league announced.
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : A big step in the right direction. Just put in the college system is very very good.
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : NFL has passed a rule that allows both teams to possess the ball in OT during the regular season
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : Touchbacks on kickoffs will now bring the ball to the 35-yard line.
beast (31-Mar) : It might of gotten more popular recently, but braiding hair (even men) in certain cultures goes back for centuries.
Martha Careful (30-Mar) : Is men braiding their hair a new style thing? Watching the NCAA men's tournament many players have done
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Ha. Well, it'd be nice for folks to reset their own password. Via validated email 😏
beast (29-Mar) : Monopoly was supposed to be an educational game, that show how evil capitalism was and how we should avoid it
beast (29-Mar) : Lol, I was thinking username would be better, as then I wouldn't have to keep an email up to date lol 😂
beast (29-Mar) : Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (29-Mar) : sure is
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Monopoly is a rip off of The Landlord's Game
wpr (27-Mar) : 28 days until the draft
earthquake (27-Mar) : Which seemed strange to my 9 year old self, that you could be a fan for a team other than the one you play for
earthquake (27-Mar) : Nothing eventful happened, other than it being clear that he was a bengals fan
earthquake (27-Mar) : And we went and hung out with him one afternoon, I must have been 9 or so
earthquake (27-Mar) : That’s wild, when I was a kid my friend lived in the same apartment complex in De Pere
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : Only career highspot was a 200 yard rushing game while playing for the Cardinals
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : He is a former Packer. Drafted out of Northern Illinois. Didn't do much in GB.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Despicable
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Former NFL. I think Packers too
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : NFL RB Leshon Johnson has been charged in a massive dog fighting operation, with the FBI seizing over 190 Pit Bulls
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Some real irony of a QB as short as Wilson playing for the Giants
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Giants country, let's be the tall beings of lore!
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Russell Wilson signs with the Giants.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (25-Mar) : I don't think there is a significant difference. I use a user name for many. Others email.
Martha Careful (25-Mar) : email
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : would it be better to use EMAIL or USERNAME to log into a site?
wpr (25-Mar) : Thanks Zero
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : New forum has the ability to Thank a post now.
beast (24-Mar) : And the only time they have won the Championship in an even year, was the first time they did, in 2006.
beast (24-Mar) : Since 2007, there have been 10 odd numbered years, Wisconsin Women have won the Championship in 7 of those 10 odd numbered years.
buckeyepackfan (24-Mar) : Congratulations Lady Badger Hockey Team. NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : I don't think it's completed yet. it was just announced last month, right?
dhazer (23-Mar) : did netflix ever release the Packers documentary
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : And it is glorious!
beast (21-Mar) : Unsigned FA QB Rodgers is supposedly in the Steelers building
Martha Careful (19-Mar) : But I don't own a car! So can I still use it in my apartment?
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : btw, new site auto updates
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : Woohoo!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / dfosterf

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

25-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-Mar / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

24-Mar / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

21-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.